Cycle Log: Test Base + Estrogen Management (12-Week Protocol)
About to kick off a new cycle. Not pharma, but it’s expected to hit hard. Goal is to spike test, crush estrogen, and flatten out the nips.
Planned Stack:
Tongkat Ali - 800mg/day (100:1 extract)
This will be the test base. Expecting total testosterone to rise from where its at now which i estimate to be around 900 - 1200 ng/dL to 1900–2100 ng/dL based on ingredient strength. Hoping for major improvements in size, strength, libido, and recovery.
DIM - 800mg/day
This will be my AI. Dosed high to knock down estrogen hard. Remove gyno and get dry nips. already feeling effect after first dose.
Curcumin -1000mg/day with Bioperine
AI and joint protection. Should help keep inflammation low and joints clean while everything ramps up.
Starting stats: 200 lbs at 20% body fat estimated 900 - 1200 ng/dL Testosterone
Target: 220 lbs at 10% body fat estimate 1900–2100 ng/dL Testosterone
Lets see how it goes.
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Bro I would stick with creatine and protien especially at your age. You should know your baseline test level and really everything else before starting anything. Doing cardio and diet before starting a cycle too will guarantee your ready for that. commitment. Sometimes those supplements are just as bad or worse
... alot of this is sounding familiar.
anvilFirst off, none of this hits hard. You are over weight, trying to use oral only cycles, working out 4 times per week? No cardio.
2nd Once Gyno becomes fibrous tissue it cannot be reduced or "removed" without surgery. A simple google search would answer this for you.
3rd You are not going to double test levels with natural supplements, that is why the TRT doctor doesn't give you a discount card to the vitamin shoppe to get what you need to fix it.
I have serious doubts that you are 25 years old and allowed to be using this website.
You really just don’t want to stick the needle in your ass do you lol?
Couple things: have you had your test levels checked and that showed 900-1200ng/dl? That’s insanely high. I personally would not fuck around with any hormones and risk screwing those up. I’d milk those test levels for all their worth.
I think the increase in test levels you’re expecting is very optimistic. I haven’t seen any data suggesting it will double test levels, especially naturally high test levels. Most of what I’ve seen is a 100-200 point increase. But it’s definitely possible I haven’t seen all the data.
Have you taken this stuff before? If not you may want to ramp up. See how you react at maybe half that dose first. It can make some people nauseous. It can be quite bad for you at higher doses. But 800 isn’t that high.
As for Dim at 900mg. I’d also start smaller there. I take 300mg per day for my AI on my TRT protocol and it keeps my estrogen in check with 150mg of test C per week. Which keeps me around 800-1000ng/dl. I’ve never been one to convert to estrogen at a high level though. But you don’t want to crash your estrogen, you just want to keep it within normal range. Low E will make you feel like crap.
But all in all maybe this stuff will boost your levels enough to help you hold onto a bit more muscle than you would naturally. I’m glad you’re not running test for this cut. In my opinion it’s a total waste of your first cycle to cut. First cycle should always be a bulker.
AlphaMale5000I just estimate they are around there off how I feel and look, probably on lower end since I'm 20bf. I'm not worried about crashing estrogen since I got gyno and kinda flabby body, would rather have crashed estrogen and joint pain idc. Also I might take some anadrol since I have some pills left over from months ago, idk though since it made my gyno a bit bigger when I ran it but maybe with DIM it might help lower or stop from getting more gyno. I've done real orals before, was thinking about doing test cycle but idk I don't feel like I have low testosterone and if I do test it will probably destroy my balls which are big and that's evidence of high testosterone.
You guesstimate your test levels off of feel? Lmao cmon man. You will actually have to get a blood test...oh wait, your are afraid of needles and infections, now I remember. Good luck!!! Your going to need it
AlphaMale5000I am not afraid of needles lol i have done before
anvilYour mom tells you your balls are big. You are not in the right website brother. You want the natty sites.
AlphaMale5000Your just a angry troll gtfo and go answer questions about steroids, this is my log i will be updating weekly so fuck off i don't wanna see you no ball bitch here.
AlphaMale5000Cool, suck balls faggot! If you have problem with my stack or me having big balls fuck off this is log and i wasnt asking for any advice from braindead roid head like you. You sound angry probably because your balls don't exist anymore after running fake and gay steroids from china. Also am running anadrol and binaural steroids so I'm basically real steroid freak execpt i get to keep my balls.unlike moron no balls bitches like you.
Ok, I’ll bite.
1.) I’ll give you a +1 for actually putting your log in the right area.
2.) When are you getting blood tests done? Did you get one before starting this? I’d like to see if your projected numbers match your test results.
3.) Any “before” pictures?
4.) What’s your training like?
5.) What’s your diet like?
AlphaMale5000Haven't got blood test I might idk, nah I ain't really comfortable putting pics right now since I look flabby at 20bf, I train consistently 4 times a week with bench and dumbbells at home, diet is good I guess I try and eat 4 cans of tuna a day, liter of milk and 12 eggs if can, also whatever my mom cooks, litre of milk probably not best for fat loss but I still wanna build muscle. I'm not trying to be pro bodybuilder or anything just wanna look built but also ripped.
anvilWhat your mom cooks what are you 12?
Should’ve known no self-respecting 25+ year old would call themselves “alpha male” and be afraid of pokes… though I’d love for someone else to cook for me…
AlphaMale5000I'm 23 fuck you faggot, go try and pull your balls out of your scrotum no ball bitch.
anvilI called this one didn't ???
@Greg, cleanup in the toy aisle
23 and mommy still makes your food. Does she give you a little note in your napkin too? Pathetic buddy. Must be 25 to be here too. And your are an extremely immature 23 year old. Grow up and support yourself.
anvilINSANE!
LMAO