posted Sat, 07/14/2012 - 12:52
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Cycle for NEWBIE (First Time!!!!!)
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Whats up brossss
My buddy is interested in doing his first cycle. He's 31yrs, 6'2 230lbs, and around 20%
bf. Obviously his goals are to lean out. He does work out regularly and has lost a significant amount of lbs in the last yr. What do you guys recommend for him?
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tread-mBrother if you'll get your buddy on the right diet he can be cycle ready in 30 days here. I would first things first and have some bloods done with estradial included. If his estro were to be high with current bf he could hop on a low dose aromasin along with his diet temporary and it would be highly beneficial to him in the pre-cycle cut. Even just to drop to 15% based on your guess would be in line. Really good diet, drink a lot of water, cut salt, low dose AI for a couple weeks if needed and he'll peel fat like crazy and blink of an eye be cycle ready. If you need a diet to roll with that work holla. By the time he got his cycle all rounded up he will be closer to roll time. Tell him come on down, nothin up in here but work! Lol
VOLUME 12Hey thanks guys. Dont quote me on the 20% bf...maybe its a lil lower (18ish) but i doubt any lower than that. This is exactly why I decided to post this question as I am not a gear guru. I appreciate the info bros
No gear til low bf.. High blood pressure....higher estrogen....stroke....
Diet, Diet, Diet.... then test only and arimidex .25mg/eod!!!! No more than 500mg/week test, no longer than 12 weeks. Pct, Nolv/clomid, then get bloodwork. OS is on point tho, he should really do his own research... And even w/ me telling you this, he needs to understand what changes this can possiby do to him read the thread OS referenced all your questions will most likely be answered.
AnonWhy arimidex over aromasin?
Accorngding to my research both do pretty much the same thing, adex has been in the game longer... I personally dont jump on the next best thing until there is substantiated research suggesting that is the superior substance. From what I can find adex is more common, and more readily available w/ tons of research backing it. Similar research has taught me aromasin is a suitable alternative if one builds a tolerance to adex. It's pretty much like flogers vs maxwell house.
Good ques/point tho. Either will do just fine.
tread-mVery good point in saying "if you build a tolerance to adex". From what I can see you do build a tolerance to adex and not only do you not build a tolerance to aromasin, you create an environment by where it actually works better over time and less is needed.. had a good friend here, used to be a MOD who became highly gyno prone over night. He was using adex and noticed his dose kept having to increase over time to keep the gyno at bay. Could not even consider even running dbol anymore because its blowin the boobies up day 3 and 4. Then switched to aromasin. The aromasin took hold of and arrested the gyno, depleted it over time and he ended up staircasing down several times to 6.25 eventually eod and could easily run dbol not even a mild flair . So yes, that's one person but based on my reading and use it just seems all things fall in line to conclude or at least support aromasin as being the better option.
AnonAs I said suicide inhibitor. Totally kills the enzyme which converts the test to estro.
AnonThey don't do the same thing.
Aromasin is a suicide aromatase inhibitor while Adex just renders the enzyme inactive while in your system.
Not the same. Different mechanisms. Aromasin will also prevent Estradiol rebound much better than Adex.
I guarantee you will get people on here who will tell you that your friend should research for himself. That being said, there is a whole tread dedicated to 1st cycles in the forums under the community tab. I believe it is under general talk. Happy Hunting!
AnonI'd recommend he stays away from gear until he lowers his body fat and learns to train with a solid diet and sleep schedule.
No way he's ready for steroids at 20% body fat. If he does start he'll probably have gyno issues.
I mean if his goal is to lean out he's not going to be happy with the bitch tits it's probably going to give him.