posted Sat, 10/14/2017 - 19:50
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Cutmix and Sus-250?
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Hey fellas,
I have enough cutmix to run for 10 weeks (50 test prop/50 tren a/50 mast). I also have enough sus-250 for 12-14 weeks. This is a little stockade of vials from various past orders. Would this even make for a decent cycle?..and if so, how would you guys schedule it?
Any opinion would be appreciated 
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backonroidsNo just no , your cycle history is stupid .. stop everything you are planning and research nutrition your picture shows me you are completely clueless and the fact you've ran 3 cycles and have very little muscle mass tells me you have no buisness running AAS at this point in time .
I will look for some good links to share with you on nutrition to help bulk you up and a good work out of you like ?
The basics need to be dialled in before anything .It may seem like I'm being harsh that's just the truth mate . There are steps you need to take to get to your goals .
Pyramid90I would appreciate any and all advice if youre corjul with your intentions. No bad blood bro. I've became more mature and respectful of cycling with experience. I'd love to get the most out of the benefits of AS.
backonroidsIt was a very skinny guy , I'm not huge now but I have some mass and thickness now all from eating. The basics for me personally would be to wale up 30mins to an hour earlier get a good breakfast on the go , this meal to me is my most important I want to get some healthy fats in carbs and protein as it also doubles up as me pre work out meal as I train early.
It's good to see your diet does not consist of all shakes and actual food I have to give you respect for that mate . Where I personally think your going wrong it is very clean for example you have 2 cups of egg white which is a great protein source but with your frame you could get away with eating some whole eggs aswell it would be more kcal dense and add some good fats and not that much harder to eat , 2 cups of oatmeal again a respectable serving for sure !you could add your natural peanut butter to the oatmeal for extra calories, Then you can think of ways to improve your other meals without me going through them one by one your getting my picture .
I'm not sayin to go and dirty bulk but I would sprang about 6 months bulking you could get away with eating more red meat etc keep your carbs nice and high and see what works a 100g carbs is the difference between looking full and flat on a day to day basis .
Eating every 2-3 hours is key in my opinion , which is hard sometimes with work and real life but you've got to do your best to get it in . I'll add some links below for help .
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/bulking-for-hard-gainers
Pyramid90In addition to 2 protein/calorie shakes a day. I may not have the mass of some of the guys on this forum, yet all of my weight is dense muscle. I don't aim to have jacked arms or any particular part of my body. I work out my entire body equally. I'm more interested in lifting for the purpose of function, not cosmetics. I will put up more photos soon and I believe you'll change your mind. I weighed in at "only" 188lbs tonight, I can happily say that 188lbs is purely muscle. I had mentioned to you directly yesterday how i have a metabolic abnormality. I refuse to the meds from the doc because of the sides and inefficiency. I'm putting in my work to attemp gaining mass. I'm no slacker.
Pyramid90Please explain how my cycle history is stupid?
Let me list my diet plan before you come at me like I haven't done my research. I have followed this diet since starting this cycle. (+-) on given days, but pretty much identical day to day.
Meal #1:
2 cups of All Whites liquid egg whites
2 serving of old fashioned oatmeal
1 cup blueberries (frozen, added to hot oatmeal)
Meal #2:
Low-Fat Fruit Smoothie (recipe listed above)
Meal #3:
12 oz. skinless chicken breasts
2 servings of frozen veggie blend
1 tablespoon olive oil
Meal #4:
Low-Carb Peanut Butter on 3 pieces of toasted wheat bread.
Meal #5:
12 oz. skinless chicken breasts
1 slice fat free cheese
1 or 2 whole wheat, reduced carb tortillas
1 or 2 servings salsa
Meal #6:
11 oz . salmon
2 servings of veggie blend
Also including a bunch of dried fruits and nuts that I keep in my work pack.
backonroidsI don't really need to explain why to behonest ... think about transition between cycles and if you continue on this path what your cycles will look like in a couple of years .
I'm not here to waste my time to explain petty things mate ...
WTF
"A cycle based on left overs."
Pyramid90Haha that reads pretty bad doesn't it.
I could of worded it prettier or left out that information, but they're vials I bought in the past year and just decided to not include into cycle after buying them.
Pyramid90First cycle should read Test E 12 weeks, not tren e. Lol. That would be crazy.
LOL HAHAHAHA LOL. Yes that would be crazy.
Pyramid90I lift every chance I get between a part time job and full time MA student. At least 5 times a week for 1-2 1/2 hours.
Pyramid90187 lbs. 7% body fat. Naturally lanky proportions. I'm aiming for a cut/lean 200-210 lean build. I have a Bruce Lee-ish look to my muscle. I was 150 when I did my first cycle. My metabolism is hella quick. I couldn't gain weight while eating hefty and healthy portions, along with 2 1k calorie protein shakes a day. AS have helped me a lot with gaining size.
3 prior cycles.
First was about 2 yrs ago: Tren E 12 weeks
2nd: test c/deca
3rd: test E tren/tren e 12 weeks
I appreciate your candor. It's tough packing on size, working, going to school. You really jumped in the deep end with those compounds though. If you'd started on mild cycles of test, slowly incorporated an oral, then maybe boldenone or primo before getting into 19 nor compounds you'd have years of growth and fewer side effects/long term health impacts.
Let's say you were eating 3 k cals a day and your 2 shakes would put you at 5 k cals total, and you couldn't grow naturally on that?
And throw up a pic, let's see this Bruce Lee muscle. If you're cool with that
Pyramid90Im having trouble putting up my pre-cycle photos on my iPad, but I was able to upload an update. This is where I stand as of today. A few push ups before the pic, but not full gym swole. I'm no giant, but the progress is so coooool
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/getting-bigger-with-a-cut-mix-cycle There is an update pic
Time to eat my man! Get those cals up. Keep grindin
Pyramid90I'm trying my man haha. I'm considering eating a little dirty to help me gain some more weight. Did you happen to see my progress report? I'm not where I want to be yet, not nearly, but I'm seeing changes
Thanks again for the advice and encouragement Beard!
Pyramid90Hey Beard,
I thought I'd give a little update. Against some considered recommendations, I decided to go with the Cut Mix this cycle and I'm loving it!!! Pinning 1.5 ml ed with an attempt to rise the mast levels. I'm almost 4 weeks in. I have taken my diet more serious this cycle than any previous run. I also switch from whey/calorie shakes to whey isolate, which I believe has been far more effective. In these 4ish weeks I've gone from 179-190 lbs! Dude, my muscles are dense, defined, growing rapidly, and I'm vascular as a MF! My recovery time has been superb, allowing me to hit the gym everyday with no problems and even twice a days when my college work is on lock. I really wanted to let ya know I appreciate your hospitable demeanor for a forum newbi. I hope you're well bud!
Thanks for checking back in. At the end of the day we're gonna do what we're gonna do. I'm glad you took some time to at least listen to some different ideas. 11 pounds in 4 weeks is quite the gain, throw up some pics when you get time. Before and afters are always motivating.
Watch your e2 and prolactin. And hit a heavy PCT when you're done.
Spoiler ALERT!!!!
The OP stated this topic less than 2 weeks ago, .............. just another newbie looking for a co-signer.
Pyramid90I’d appreciate it if you got at me and knew what you were talking about before trying to slander my name dude. I don’t even know what the hell a co-signer is? Get off my dick please bud.
RustyhookerBecause your layout on you cycle log is dogshit. You came here with the "fuckyou" attitude. Ill be cheering as you lose your gains 4 weeks post because your shitty attitude.
Careful my brotha, KMC is well respected and has put in his time here helping people like you. Let's show a little respect.
Pyramid90Noted.
But...
I didnt appreciate his accusation or approach. He showed no helpful advice towards me and his respect will be earned. Thanks for the heads up though man.
Pyramid90Cut mix was started about 2 weeks prior to post. Please ask for deets
Pyramid90And nahhhh man I couldnt gain a damn pound for the life of me. I treated GNC like a sample pack before I ever looked into AS.
Pyramid90Man, you're probably right about me jumping in on the Nors too quick. Doing research on all compounds led me to choose what I did. The test only cycle was such an ease of my first cycle so I eagerly thought "I could handle more than that"...stupidly. I'm in bed now, but I'll toss up a pic while at the gym tomorrow night. Thanks again for all the helpful information. I sincerely appreciate the wisdom.
backonroidsIs the pic getting uploaded ?
RustyhookerPriors kinda effed imo. Given your stats and goals just bulk. Naturally lean should keep off fat. It'll be 100% diet and gym. Gear is repair of muscles. Simple.
Drop cut mix or tren completely.
Sust at ed or eod pins. I go ed but i also know 10 plus pin points. Eod should be fine with a real cycle.
Do the math and hit 600mg a week sust. I'd start provi week 2 until pct. Keep it easy.
Food!!!! Lean n lanky is ALL bout food or you will lose it as fast as you gained. Post up food ideas on macros. Food guys will be gold for you.
School.... i was in a few years back. Late start. Mentally....do you really have tge time to balance 7 meals a day on time plus a good bulker? Be honest or its your loss. Real talk.
whats your pct?
Pyramid90I have arimidex for on cycle. Nolva + Clomid for pct. I ran prov with my deca cycle after reading about the infamous deca dick. It helped a lot with libido and the absurd amount of water weight. I'd honestly enjoy running prov with every cycle
Pyramid90First cycle should of read test e for 12 weeks, not tren haha
Pyramid90Thanks for the info dude. I'm eating nowhere near 7 meals a day. I'll eat 3-4 BIG meals. I've studied into what to eat. Don't feel like typing all that out at the moment. Getting lazy and tired. I can fit at least an hour in everyday due to the ease of having a nice gym at my apartments. Lifting has become what smoking a joint was in my earlier years. Lifting at the end of the day really puts me at peace. Sus ed eh? Could you please explain the math behind your decision? I'm curious considering the 4 different esters. I'll go with the sus alone and save the cut...but mannn. I liked that tren E a lot haha
RustyhookerResearch cryhavok. He's got all that posted.
3 big meals while 'lanky' not gonna work.
Lazy and tired... you're wasting time and money on gear.
Im done here
Pyramid90Ay rusty,
I sincerely don't have much free time to be able to spend giving an accurate and detailed diet plan. I was able to sit down and type it out tonight. Please don't believe I'm lazy bud. I'm taking this cycle very serious. I've taken all of your opinions sincerely. I appreciate you taking the time to give me advice (even tough love) haha.
Pyramid90Rusty you are f'n ruthless haha. I like that about you though. It was like 1 AM in Memphis and I was dozing off. When I get outta work I'll post my daily food intake.
BOGNeed way more detail about you. Goals, diet, training, pass cycle. We can't help you into we have more info bother.
Pyramid90I would pin the sus twice a week and the cutmix eod...maybe ed.
Pyramid90Sorry for lack of detail man, I added some info
6'1" 185, it doesn't look like you need to be running tren anytime soon. Focus on the diet and get that weight up.
Pyramid90Sorry for lack for detail ^^^
RustyhookerStats, goals, priors.?
Pyramid90Not sure if you got a notification, I posted history and current stats. I've been lurking this site for years and just began getting involved. Figuring out the ropes lol