posted Wed, 05/22/2013 - 09:13
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Cut cycle thoughts
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I'm just wondering if a 6 to 8 week test prop cut cycle is worthwhile? I want to drop some body fat but preserve as much lean mass as possible. The cutting I will handle via diet no Clen or anything like that although tempting.
I figure I could do this for my next cycle and the shorter duration might make pct a bit easier on me than my first go around. And yes I'm fine pinning EOD or even ED
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I'd say anavar. It's excellent for preserving muscle. Low on sides, and not very suppressive. Oh and it can decrease appetite! Run it the full 8 weeks at 75mg.
Thanks! Standard PCT for this I assume? So my complete cycle would look like this
Prop 150mg EOD (or 75mg ED)
Var 75mg ED (Is that ED or every week?)
Aromasin 6.25 ED
PCT
clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
I'm actually considering triptorelin as my pct. I want to try it and record labs once a week and compare them to my current set of labs (every two/3 weeks post PCT). In which case:
PCT
Triptorelin 100 mcg x 1 injection
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Clomid and Nolva on hand in case labs show trip isn't helping. Begin use 1 to 2 weeks after trip if needed
I'd wait about 4 or 5 days after last prop shot to do the trip. You really wanna make sure there is nothing suppressing you.
Then I'd start a very low dose nolva 10mg per day about 4 days after your trip shot to block any estrogen. Continue nolva for 2 weeks, maybe with 50mg clomid. That is what I would do. No reason to take aromasin by itself that will just eliminate your estrogen. But if you do use aromasin, no more than 6.25 eod
So why nolva and not aro? The aro would be EOD. I thought if you used trip there would be hopefully no need for clomid or nolva.
RustyhookerProp/var and all clean food. No cheats!
NO CHEATS? screw that shit!!! LOL Just kidding.
I can control myself for 8 weeks. I thought var was best for people with lower fat? Sorry, I don't really know all the compounds. I try not to concern myself with them until I'm ready for them.
Looks like I got some reading/research to do on var!
By the way, I'm about 13 to 15% body fat according to my cheap ass calipers. I would also be doing fasted cardio (actually already am) and I train with intensity and short breaks. Just enough to catch my breath! My body type makes it easier for me to cut than it is to gain that's for sure! Took me a long time to even get a fat 220.
RustyhookerWell....some finishers show their best work when lean but then again so does test all alone. Var is expensive so its up to you. Test prop will help you hold mass while leaning out. Var helped add some nice strength gains while cutting. Mast prop for me helps cut. Provi/prop would be complimentary. Provi unbinds test as wrll as having anti estro properties. Freeing up test makes more available. Other unbinders like Winny give me Hella extra energy but can dry joints. I ran Winny at just 30mgs/day.
Many options but cutting down to how it works--gear is simply a preserver while on calory defecit or eating clean. Scale might not move at all but the definition will come out as fat falls off.
Damn you have a nasty curve ball! Thanks for throwing it at me. Lol
Would you recommend various and at what dosage.
Definitely consider the above, about winny if you try it. I did short 6 wk, Prop 100 eod and winny 50mg dly. my joints were HURTIN after. My strength went up, but my joints paid the price. I like the Prop/Provi if you looking for simple. So many guys try to throw in so many chems, when a simple stack like that will do. More doesn't mean better. Keep us posted which you choose. Id like to hear how it works for ya.
RustyhookerMany options here. Prop eod 100/provi 50ed.....or prop 100/75var....prop/mast/var at 100/100/75. Main thing is food. Keepin it easy is the way to go.
I would think about using something else along with the prop. test it is a good base to build off of. your results will be better with a strategic stack of anabolics while combined with a meticulous eating plan
Thought about winny but it's only my second cycle not sure if it's a good idea or not
I was thinking just cutting carbs. Carb free after noon and dropping calories 500 below maintenance and gauge and adjust as needed. High protein of course. I've done it before with success going from 220 and fat down to 175.at that point I was getting to thin but still had the belly and chest fat. Everywhere else seems to be lean with minimal fat.
I want to get bigger and bulk but th honestly t body fat around my chest and stomach needs to go. I'll stay tiny a bit longer lol. I'll post pics later and link Em. If you have tips on my ears are open
8 weeks with great diet and proper dosing will yield fantastic results! What diet are you thinking of using?