posted Tue, 11/27/2012 - 00:34
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-1 Bulk Cycle -rough draft-
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15 week bulk cycle... ( this is not what i plan on running its a ROUGH draft )
1000mg Test e week 1-15
800mg Eq week 1-14
400mg Tren e week 1-12
Week 16-17 Clomid 100 mg, 50 mg Ed
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
I'm 27. 5"6 160lbs 10% body fat right now, dropped 10lbs after hurting my shoulder and letting it heal.
I've ran 5-7 cycles previously but incorrectly thanks to idiots who don't do research ( not any of you guys )
Thanks gearHeads.
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Do you smoke? Do amphetamines? Drink a lot? All these will ruin gains... Idk how you havent gained if ur diet, routine, and rest is on point...
hold up! why do you fill the need to run test that high. you only ran 5-7 cycles before this, more does not equal better. more equals more sides. either your diet is screwed or you didn't run the pct correctly. if you couldn't make good gains with 500-750mg of test what makes you think 1000mg is going to be any better? aas is just a supplement to everything else you do to make gains. like diet being number one. training number two and sleep and recovery number three.
So it really doesnt sound like you are interested in getting it right, I told you in PM its your diet, I told you down below its your diet, but you dont want to hear it I guess. I can assure you your diet is fucked up, post it up so you can actually make some progress on a cycle.
ill shoot u a message in PM so we can discuss a few things about my previous cycles.
Ok I dont do PM messages, anybody wants advice its here so everybody can learn and join in, there is guys that will hold your hand and walk you through stuff via PM but im not one of them. So based on what you said you basically have no cycle experience and your diet sucks. So why do you think that you are gonna have success running high doses and lots of compounds? Im telling you for your own good that your thinking is fucked up, your looking for compounds to do all the work and thinking higher doses are gonna help and your wrong. keep it simple and do the standard beginner cycle of just test-e for 12 weeks, dial in your diet a little better and try to keep as much as you can from that cycle.
okay
im not asking for anymore advice. this turned into a nightmare for me to discuss anything about what im doing right/wrong
Bro, that's the wrong approach. Even if you don't like what's being said, it isn't being said to fuck with you or break your stones. They're looking out for you. When someone comes across as resistant or lazily researches, they usually get reamed a lot harder than you did. Just take heed and above all else, take it with a grain if salt. It's the Internet. What someone says to you on the Internet shouldn't effect you negatively. There are some knowledgable guys in this thread trying to help out. Listen to them. Learn from your mistakes.
your right...
i guess i forgot to mention ive gained 30lbs so far since jan of this year and ive kept it... im just at a point where its hard to pack on more weight....
Bro, do you even lift?
i left the rough draft -as is- so i could get some opinions on the things i should change up in order to run the perfect cycle.
of course i lift... i hurt my shoulder a month 1/2 ago... its finally healing so im gonna hop back in the gym december 1st
Im just saying that because u said you have run 5-7 cycles... So u should be waaayyy bigger than 160... I reached 195 all natty. U must have started juicing when u were 100 lbs.... U not evrn lifting is the best explanation lol
This is all bad. You should listen to these guys in here.
im not running the above cycle bro...
So i got a PM from this guy about this cycle and I told him that with 5-7 cycles at 160 his problem was his diet. Im surprised no-one mentioned it in this thread or I didnt catch it if its there. However before i would ever give a guy that weighed 160 tren advice we would need to see the diet. So post up your diet, thats probably where your biggest problem is.
Well spotted and excellant info brother... we have a major problem with diet/training here... i refuse to give ANY cycle advice here it could be potentially dangerous with ALL other things being so wrong.
i guess i need to edit this before people assume its what im running soon lol...
i have everything ordered and on the way in order to run a proper bulk cycle, no worries.
I don't think his problem is diet as much as just being full of shit
Point taken. I missed it. I'm definitely guilty of skimming through this post because I knew I talked to him in pm about his cycle plans. Didn't consider tren as an issue since he's run it before. But you're right. At 160lbs, 5 cycle later he has a problem somewhere. More than likely its the diet. I'm a hard gainer but I can accomplish a lot in 6 cycles.
bro, no src promotion in forum... I'd edit before you get hit hard
...and Nitti's right, the more is better approach is amateurish
...and -2 for promotion and for even thinking about running a stack like that with those stats SHAME ON YOU!
My bad.
Won't happen again bro
Lol? What happened to what we talked about?
I read and understood you
My cycle was a rough draft.
I wanted a few opinions.
Trust me your words have sunk in my brain and I'm glad you helped me understand so much brotha
Ok brother! I can dig it. Trying to get other opinions is cool. A gram of test is a waste. The second cycle plan (the one zewi said he would personally run) is pretty damn close to what I gave you. You'll do much better with that. Let the tren and EQ work their magic. Keep the test low. I like the prop kicker too.
Unless its a test only cycle you want to run test as a base only a healthy dose for proper function of the body. Some ppl won't run more than 200mg of test with a tren-eq cycle. I think 300 is a good number for this. Just a healthy test base bro. You're not running test only anymore.
zewiGuess he didn't here you ...:)
zewiHowever if i were going to run your cycle, IMO this would be better.
1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD
1-16 Test E @ 400mg a week
1-16 EQ @ 800mg a week
5-16 Tren E @ 400mg
16-19 Test P @ 100mg EOD
However, when i run an EQ, tren, test cycle this is how i do it..
1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD
1-18 Test E @ 300mg a week
1-18 EQ @ 600mg a week (sometimes 800mg)
7-18 Tren E @ 500mg a week
17-22 Test P @ 100mg EOD
17-22 Anavar @ 75mg ED
I like the second one. +1 for that
love it when you veteran's help people out with their cycles so they get the best results, i appreciate u doing this for me. ive learned so much on eroids. without it id be one dumb cracker lol
zewianytime
Sent you a PM bro
Just double checking- you've ran Tren before right? My advice would be drop the tren and just stick with EQ and Test. But if you truly want to mutate then keep the tren lol. I don't know if you will last 12 wks on tren though but it's the enanthate version so the sides should be a little less intense I would imagine, versus Ace.
yeah ive ran tren before, both A and E.
im taking all good/bad comments, which is why i posted my cycle.
zewiGo Do More Research..----IMO--this is all wrong.
tell me whats wrong, in your opinion of course.
im running the test higher because i have natural low test levels anyways...
zewiWell that's fin and all but even people on TRT only need max 250mg a week of test.
Your going to have to much test floating around turning into estor. You will not use that much. So it has nothing to do but turn into estro.
IMO--at most the test should be no higher than 500mg..
Tren and test go after the same receptors, Tren will always win. Always win, if you have to much test, you will get sides because the test has no were to go but to turn into estro. I dont care if you have zero natural test. YOU WILL NOT USE A GRAM OF TEST, WHILE RUNNING TREN, you are not big enough..
And EQ should be ran 16 weeks in this cycle, if not 18.
okay so chop the test e in half and run 500mg a week for 15 weeks, gotcha.
anything else bro?