any suggestions...
Hey people! I am about to get some fear to start my first cycle and would like some input if its a bad idea (pros and cons)
of starting off with sustanon and Deca (Nova and clomid as well).
My stats:
I am 36, 5'9" @ 158 with 10% bf. I've been training solid for a year and a half. I've made some nice improvements in that time but I have tried all the test boosters sold by the supplement stores and we all know they don't work, that leads me to this. I was gonna run just test enanthate but was really thinking of going with Sus and Deca to be a lil more aggressive cycle. I have read that the first cycle should be test e (along with the ancillaries) but I would like some input from people who have more experience. I am getting some gear advice from someone who has been doing AAS for quite some time but i want more opinions. With all that out the way, what do you think? Be gentle...
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tread is the man, I would take his advice.
tread-mLearn your compounds 1 at a time. Test E 500 split 12 weeks , adex on hand and proper pct. Est like you want to gain and continue that eating once the gear is gone with good on cycle type workouts. Not a bad idea to lower reps and go heavier post cycle for a few weeks to lower carb burning and push the muscle to help keep it around and permanent. Looks like you decided to do it right down there so good for you. You'll be happy with your cycle and as you suspected in your post only wanting one cycle, you'll be back. Its like lays, nobody has just one! : /
Brother if ur really wanting to run Sus for ur first cycle by all means do it!
My very first cycle years ago was straight up organon Sus at 250 per 5 days for first 5 weeks then bumped to 500 week6-10 then back to
250 for last couple weeks. I had fucking awesome results and yes ur diet is everything if u eat shit ur gonns look like shit!
I gained 14 solid lbs and barely held water I still was ripped bc my diet was perfect!!
Just run the Sus bro you'll be fine
For your 1st cycle keep it simple . Run test e for 12 wks @500 mg wkly split ..maybe throw in an oral for the first 4 wks..The main problem I see is you are not eating enough .
Dude he never mentioned his diet before why are you pulling shit out of your ass and selling it as advice? I mean really WTF
You are a bad ass behind a computer ..go jerk off to your daddy's porn collection..
First I'm bad ass anywhere and why are you intrested in me jerking off? You subcontious is showing reference my father porn and me jacking off...says something about you.
Ohhh Ok I get it you are after some Karma .. I got you doggy lol
Lamo ask around karma means shit to me lol read my posts most of them are about you
He weights 158lbs uh duh .. I guess the pain killers are really messing you up dog..
I eat at least 3000 good calories a day consisting of chicken, fish, 2 protein shakes a day as well as a good balance of carbs and fats. Pretty rough when I work 3 different jobs but I do my best. Crazy but I am always hungry all damn day long.
Try to bump those calories to at least 4000 Ed , focus on solid meals , and try to eat every 2 or 3 hrs, a good way to bump calories is to snack on mix nuts in between meals ..
I'm on pain killers so did I miss where he covered his diet?
I think he is going based on how much the kid weighs bro. 158lbs is light for is height.
Correct .
That still gives no insight on his diet in the least bit plus he has not started his cycle
Ok it doesnt mean his diet isn't a work in progress, but it still shows that he lacks some discipline in his diet. Especially at 5'9" and 158lbs, it should be apparent that he isn't or at one point was not eating enough.
I have been eating every 2-3 hours for awhile. I get jittery if i go too long between meals. At 36 years old, the heaviest I've ever been was about 175. That was eating all kinds of garbage and I've always had a big appetite. Just dont really gain too much weight.
When I do start my cycle I will increase my calories as well. Don't want to waste anything, I want to get out all I can from this cycle.
just remember whenever you finish your cycle whatever that may consist of, that you continue to eat as much after your cycle as you do when you are on cycle. That way you retain what you gain.
Jtizzlelol Did Nate sell u his leftovers?
Nasty81NateI told u I sold them today at work today JTizzle. Unless me and Mig work together and don't know it, I would prolly say NO I didn't rip Mig off for some painkillers!
LOL
JtizzleMy biggest concern (besides why you wont just run a nice test cycle) with Deca added to first cycle is what are you gonna do if ur body reacts poorly to it bro? You know how long it will take to get that out of your system?
Don't know how take... how long does it take?
JtizzleEster Half-Life :
Formate 1.5 Days
Acetate 3 Days
Propinate 4.5 Days
Phenylpropinate 4.5 Days
Butyrate 6 Days
Valerate 7.5 Days
Hexanoate 9 Days
Caproate 9 Days
Isocaproate 9 Days
Heptanoate 10.5 Days
Enanthate 10.5 Days
Octanoate 12 Days
Cypionate 12 Days
Nonanoate 13.5 Days
Decanoate 15 Days
Undecanoate 16.5 Days
not to over step your post so to speak but here is one of a few links we have on this site to help with questions of half life....maybe a mod can make a sticky of one of these lists in the appropriate forum thread....
http://www.british-bodybuilding.co.uk/Half-Life.shtml
JtizzleGreat idea highstrung... you are correct. Thanks
Wow, thanks for the input!
I sent you a friend request accept it and ill pm you
That's pretty handy
Nasty81NateWhere'd u paste and cut that from bro?
Jtizzleno clue , had it in my steroid notebook for a while now
Jtizzlegot all types of shit in there , some good advice , some bad advice and alot of random shit I have collected over the years..
Test E or Cyp with a mild oral for your first cycle (a lot of guys say just test for first cycle)
Deca may be a bit much for your first rodeo. If you do go with the sust and deca make sure that PCT is on point big time and run some HCG
I could just get the test e with the Deca. I really only want to do one cycle. Everyone tells me once I do one I will want to do another. Not looking to get huge, I like being slender, just want a little more muscle. I have read some post on other sites and don't want to be disappointed with the gains and retention of the gains at the end of the cycle.
Was just my opinion on the matter but I can't say in good contious to run the deca. All in all its up to you bro
U have more knowledge than I do about this and I really need to take that in. I appreciate it!
Run the TEST only,,, you wont be disappointed~!!
Take it in collectivly there are Bros here that have a lot more knowledge than me but that's what we are here for