4th cycle advise and suggestions
Starting my 4th cycle have eq/test c plans to run Eq @600 ew and test @500 ew stats are 5'10 180 30yrs old and working hard for 2.5 years.
1st cycle was a pH cycle of epistane for 8 wks
2nd cycle was a pH cycle of halodrol for 6 wks
3rd cycle was test e @500 ew for 12 wks
Cycle for the fourth is planned like this atm
Wks 1-16 Eq @ 600 ew
Wks 1-18 test @ 500 ew
Hcg 500 ew starting week 3 or 4
Aromisin @ 12.5 eod dose dependant
Pct wks 20-24 clomid 50 ed nolva 40 ed daa 3-4 grams
Now the question is I had planned to start this cycle a few weeks back but couldn't get an apt. for bloods til this week which throws my time line off. I didn't want to start until I had bloods and everything inline.
Going on vacation with the misses for her 30th first week in Oct. And let's just say we are the open marriage type and will be at a resort with lots and lots of possibilities lol. Now I have never had issues with straight crashing "ed" with any cycle but then again I have never ran one this long. My desire shifts during pct but I can usually still handle business when needed. I know everyone is different and get affected different. Just want experienced advise and opinions
Should I shorten the cycle? If so should I bump dosage and shorten or just run it out like planned?
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Thanks everyone for the responses and advise, I try to educate myself on things before posting, that's why I've been searching around this forum for awhile now and never registered. I didn't think the cycle was absurd that I planned by any means. I fully understand roll tides point of view and the others of lack of cycle experience. Hopefully my post did not come off as ignorant and uneducated.
Thinking after seeing the response from obviously more veteran and beast lol members that I should probably lay the cycle out as 500mg ew of test and save my eq. If I source out an oral I may try to source some oral winny to use as a closer to the cycle. If no oral may possibly bump test mid cycle to 600 or so for an extra bump.
Thanks again fellas for the advise.
And to meddx I try to get my calories up that high while on, its hard for me to eat clean and hit anywhere close to 5k calories. I usually sit around the 3800-4k mark
Your welcome that is what we are here for. I know what you mean about eating. Its not easy. Hang in there on your journey....you WILL succeed!!
Hi Mjm,
Many people consider EQ a mild component to a cycle. I myself would not. It can cause havoc with your blood pressure, red blood cell count, and heart rate. I may have been overly sensitive to it, but it didn't do my heart any favors.
Take some good advice stated below and throw proviron on a test cycle, or even Dbol if your wanting size.
Also it would be good to grab some Test Prop and experiment with tapering on and off.
Good Luck.
with your experience you might aswell just keep it test only, maybe a bit higher on the dose, add in proviron, no need to be running 18 week cycles either, you could do a prop kicker if you want.
X2 on prop kicker, possible taper too...
indeed, he should master test before anything.
What's your current BF at?
Around 13% atm I was around 11 or so but I got a little lazy on my diet for a bit.
U have ran one cycle. Why not run a shorter cycle. Just a simple test and oral would be fine. Like 12 weeks test last four ta six weeks var(or oral to meet your goals). Personally I think u should master short simple cycles before running long cycles. How's your diet your five foot ten and weight 180 pounds? Curious if u need work in the kitchen. What kind of gains did u get off your last cycle?
X2...using proviron 25mg/d...
Diet is clean I keep low to moderate carbs. Usually try to keep 40/30/30 ratio 40 being protein. I adjust calories over or under maintained depending on what I'm trying to do. Yes I agree I have one injectible cycle but the pH are legit but that's another topic, they are definitely more harsh on the liver and kidneys that's for sure also. I'm Asian brother I can't gain weight easy ;) I have eq and test on hand sourcing winny,var dbol ect... is not an opinion atm just using what's on hand.
Gains on last cycle was up from 170 to around 185 peak but I got some fat after cycle. I stayed hungry. So my bf went up a percent or 2 after pct
It sounds like you are ectomorph. Your macros looks balanced, too. You are making progress, its one day at a time. Is your daily intake of calories between 4000-5000? Also, how many meals per day is in your plan , and what time are you eating? Another idea for positive gains is using the pyramid weight lifting regimen, while taking longer rest breaks between sets. Keep up the good work and eat big, brother.
Good seeing u in the forums plus two
Good to see u too...thanks bro
Just a friendly advice never plan a cycle according to what's on hand. Plan your cycle on your goals and experience brother. I love eq myself but there long runs and I wouldn't advise anyone to run such cycles after one twelve week cycle. U would kill it with a simple test cycle with an oral if u want to use dbol use it to kick start your cycle or use var for a finisher. If u can't source those just set back your eq this run and run test. There's nothing wrong running your first two or three cycles with just test alone. Keep it simple stupid is a very good thing to follow when using aas. I've seen so many guys CRash and burn simply by making things way to complicated way to early.
TronI agree.. I have been using aas for years and I STILL can get great gains from a simple test cycle (well it would be a blast for me( with one oral.. I I say go with a long ester test at 500mg a week split into 2 injections at 250mg and go with Dbol for the first 2 weeks at no higher than 50mg split to 2 doses a day at 25mg.. end it with var the last 4 weeks of the cycle and at the body weight of 180 pounds I think he could get good results at say 50-60mg split in half twice a day as well... also be sure that your taking a good liver support as well. The diet is going to be the ultimate key here as it always is.. but I think he could set a reasonable goal within a 12-14 week period of gaining and maintaining 10 lean pounds.. probably gain 15 or more but keep 8-10 pounds of lean muscle after pct.
If guys would just slow down in the beginning and learn there bodies and understand how it responded to aas. There wouldn't be ten forums a day here having guys ask for help bc there in over there head. I've seen countless times we warned somebody not to run a proposed cycle only to come back here two months later begging for help from everyone.
TronI know.. I said the same thing to a guy a week or so ago. He was wanting to run tren A, mast, test, and ..well there was something else.. oh yeah I think he was going to run a couple sarms as well lol.. FIRST CYCLE. I kept as calm as I could and brought him down to reality a bit.. he was pretty consistent though.. I told the guy if you don't heed my warning your going to be back here in a month or so begging for help because you messed yourself up.. don't know if he took the advice but if he didn't I'm sure we will see a post from him soon lol.. If we do I'll be there with a "I told you so!" lol
Thanks for the advise I really do appreciate it. I am new to aas in many aspects. I try to always research as much as possible to make sure I'm not screwing myself up. Sources are hard for me to come by locally and wu money makes me nervous. Got the eq and test from a buddy who isn't around here anymore just been sitting on it.
If u need some domestic sources or questions about that stuff shoot me a fr and u can pm me