posted Thu, 05/15/2014 - 15:18
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37 y/o want to safely take first cycle.
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I have done all I can do with diet , vitamins and protein shakes and I'm ready to go to the next level. I would like a veteran to outline a good first cycle (Sustanon looks promising). I know nothing so I'd like to know how much I need for some solid gains. Also if I need to take anything with it to avoid sides, then finally what and when my post cycle should be. I want to do it correctly and I will follow sound instruction to a tee. I fear gyno as everyone does. Id like to start with just one product for a full cycle and go from there. Again please a clear outline step by step. Please help thank you
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Semper fi marine. Your in the right place and since your already used to tough love you will be just fine here. You will get more then you bargined for, just do a little work, don't make it complicated, search first cycle, AI, you should have 2 on hand I use adex and aroma as the taper in the end because of the way adex works, read about and you will see why,and pct and we will bring you along nice and solid like. Please hit the diet section as well if nothing else Viking has some massive mass building shakes...
Appreciate it , I have a window until I'm able to begin but when I'm free to get going I plan on being comfortable in my knowledge of this. I am grateful for you guys. I'll do all my studying like I was instructed to but I'll rely on y'all for coaching and advise.
Sust isn't an idea test for a first run. Seen your stats on your page. U have any idea your body fat. What's your workout plan every week look like. Need some more info to get a better understanding of what works for u. Thanks for your service for our country and I will help. I really appreciate all are veterans
I don't know my body fat really but I have some to spare. I lift usually 5 times a week with two days rest . I have very high endurance which has been beneficial . I will post a pic if it helps to gauge body fat. I truly appreciate you taking time to teach me some things. As far as my service, I appreciate the recognition although that season in my life has come to an end and I can't say I'm sad .
First the reason the guys on here say do some research is bc it's beneficial to u later if u have any sides that should occur. So to begin with ill give u a list go to the magnifying glass type these in and learn few of the basic things then come back here and we will set u up for success. First cycles we only encourage test e or c only here. Then after u get an understanding of this go type in what an ai is. I seen birdbear already helped on the pct. So do some reading bro come back here and post your first cycle. The reason we want u to learn a little more is for your safety. Up top put something like this up
Weeks 1 -12 test e
Weeks ? For your ai kinda want u to do some research here then we Will correct u
Weeks 14-18 pct
Figure out dosage and what they do at magnifying glass
Good deal, I'm in no hurry , just want to ready ready when I'm able to begin. Should I post everything on this forum?
Ya just post here
What's your stats I haven't seen them need to post here for help
See pale rider's comment at the bottom. He's not trying to be a dick and neither am I, but theres a very good reason to encourage new guys to study and learn for themselves.
First of all, you should never risk your health and play with dangerous compounds because someone says its a good idea. You should learn first and make an informed decision.
Secondly, if a guy is too lazy to put in the time studying, he's likely not ready for aa's. We dont spoon feed here. This lifestyle requires dedication and acute attention to detail. A lazy or nonchalant attitude can literally get you fucked up for life.
So hit that magnifying glass and rider's link. When you learn it, its yours. And all the info you need is here.
I actually open an account in this forum so that I can make a good informed decision. And this is part of my "homework" if you will. As far as lazy and not wanting to put in the time, I'm finishing up a 20 year career from the Marines where I have relentlessly lifted. It's a bit hard to start gear when I could get a UA at any time , ya know. Thanks for the lecture but there are some on here that try and help interested people such as myself, Birdbear27 for instance . If someone is trying to be a dick simply because they've done gear and I haven't yet is not my concern. Everyone was a newbie at one point. I'm not some 16 yr old snot nose punk trying to get laid at homecoming , I am a serious contender and I AM NOT starting anything until I am educated enough.
semper fi, I wont list my dates or years in but we would have started about the same time. I just got out much faster then you!
Semper fi brother!Yes you are right , posting particulars might be a bad idea.
Thanks for your service to this country
First of all, thank you for your service, you are my hero sir!!
I apologize if it seemed that I was calling you lazy. I wouldnt say that so quickly and without foundation. I simply meant a lot of guys come here and expect to be spoon fed. That is lazy.
I happen to be one of the guys who is very interested in helping - where I can. Im still learning too. My intention was not to offend you and I apologize if I did. I simply wanted to tell you that you dont wanna be one of "those guys". Read the link and follow the thread, youll do much better that way.
The community mantra here is no stats, no help (I know you filled yours, I checked. (: ). One of our unwritten rules is no spoon feeding. Thats why I replyed the way I did. Enjoy your time here brother! Learn, train, eat, grow! ;)
Wolverine wasn't being a dick. What he was saying is come back with a cycle plan. The compounds you've chosen and your goal for the cycle. List the A/I's you are going to use and your PCT. Cycle length and dosages. List a game plan and we will be glad to help. We get a lot of guys who show up and just basically say, what should I run without having the first clue. He wasn't attacking personally just giving out advice like we do day in and out here. He's a good member and is willing to help. You sound like you are serious about this. Stick around a while and you will see why we become so calist.
I understand, Ill get my plan on as soon as I'm off.
Thanks for havin my back homie! ;)
My apologies, if you understood how bad I got my ass chewed on other sites for being a new guy it would make more sense,I was being the dick in truth, please forgive me. I do need be in the mix with gentlemen like y'all. I am studying on my own but being able to talk to real people who are experienced is important as well.
No prob bro!! ;) Now thats out of the way, I'll be glad to help any way I can! Rolltide up top is a go-to guy here and so is pin cushion. Read all you can so you can ask the questions you need to be asking and noobs only get blasted here when they cross lines (not reading the rules, etc).
Also want to know is HCG is a must for my first cycle?
Must? No. Helpful? Sure. Hcg is used as a kind of pct kickstart. Usually about 10 days before pct start, hcg is introduced as a kicker to the pct to ensure a better recovery.
Is Nolva and Clomid needed for pct or just one, I'm just reading so many different angles and I don't want to miss anything. I don't want to go into anything lacking and end up with D's
Lol. Ask all the questions you need, that's why we're here. Nolva and clomid work synergistically to wake up the hpta and get your natty test production back up and running. So it is a good idea to use both. Some people have really shitty reactions to clomid however. So lately toremifene has become much more popular. I prefer torem as well. Many people have much better recovery with torem and are able to avoid the suicidal feelings and blindness associated with clomid. Yes those are common side effects lol. I got both using clomid. There's a good write up here on torem I'll find for you.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/toremifene-pc...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/a-safe-and-effective-pa... best wishes
Might wanna chop your face outta that pic brotha. This ain't Facebook.
I don't do facebook , but you do have a point. Thanks
No prob, just lookin out. Check out my post about changing avi pics to make it easy.
Here is a good place to start.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/cycles-the-safe-way.