+ 2 2nd cycle
Ok fellas gonna try this again, apparently I left out some information/ 1st cycle,time frame, ect... And winded up getting into a pissing match so as I relized how childish and unprofessional I sounded I took it down and want to apologize for being a dick....i am 35, lifting natty since 17. 5'9" 188lbs...anyway 1st cycle was test e only 250 2x a week=500mg 10 weeks, but bottles short so 9 weeks... followed up with 4 week pct of clomid only. This ended the 20th of October, so I'm hopping on tomorrow which I know I'm about 1-2 weeks early, yet did my bloods on Monday and Doc called me today and said everything was great, minus cholesterol levels were a lil high but that's probably from eating like a slob since thanksgiving .... anyway just posted a pic of me this Sunday and I will be creating a cycle log as well with pics.... ok, now that that's out of the way, I hope I can get a lil better feedback...
1-4/5 40mg tbol
1-10/12 test cyp (staying at 500 a week)
12/14-14/16 clomid AND nolva 100/50/50/50 40/40/20/20
Adex .25 eod starting week 2 (don't want to crash e2 before test really gets moving)
So how does this look? My goal is to get past 200 lbs so after I lose a lil I'm around 197ish.. also need to push 4 plates on bench!! Just what i want..I hit 365 first cycle, just maxed 2 weeks ago and still at 350...
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RustyhookerThis ended the 20th of October.
That would mean again...as i posted on your last rant...FEBRUARY. But you just cant wait. Smh!
stuck at 185 is all food!!
Why are you on my post again?? You like me or something? Have nothing better to do then to sit here and mess with people??? Took 8 karma from me between the 2 post? I suggest you go bother someone else man..... As tactful as I can say this, go away!!!!
RustyhookerRun that mouth. Folks here trying to help you get some goals. Bite the hand that feeds wont fly. You're a growed adult....run your ideas. Why even ask?
Maybe because you dont know?
Now you say your trying to help now?? That's not the way you talked the first post... right off the bat you were thrashing me, not giving advice! Meanwhile I take the post down trying to be better, and you come right back talking more shit? I actually tried to p.m. you but can't without friend request to talk to you... I am not a person to "run my mouth" however I don't let people talk shit to me, ever, win or lose. But alot different on Web sites man..... So it's whatever bro, talk what you want, and take all the Karma u want cause if this is how it goes here then I came to the wrong place
Rustyhookerwhaaambulance?
Lmao....ok....ok
Heres another minus 2 from me for being rude.
Well flash, thanks for that.... Obviously you never read the last post with this guy harassing me.... Rude? That was far from it! Trying to tell this guy to just leave me the fuck alone! But just a swarm of you guys now....smh
And yet you were told, and chose to ignore, tbol was a bad idea and to wait until approximately the 30th of this month.
Do you realize how you look when you ignore sage advice?
Greg there is nothing wrong with adding a oral to my second cycle, the advice was to add deca over the tbol and I'm not ready for deca yet and don't want to deal with such a hard shut down. And what did I ignore? Hoping back on after such a light, test only, 9 week cycle? Guys told me 8 weeks would be fine for such a cycle, but I took the advice here, and yeah hoped back on a lil quick, yet only after being fully recovered which was confirmed by bloods.... But hey, you all know Rusty and are gonna have his back, which believe it or not I respect (who the fuck is this new guy) , but sucks to be on the receiving end considering I'm sure it's the pot calling the kettle black! I haven't done not even a fraction of the shit you guys have pumped into your bodies... whatever
I've got nothing against your second cycle, Personally I'd go with dbol instead of tbol for the first few weeks.
Your rush to get back on cycle is where I see you having an "addictive personality". Next you'll be trying to get more and longer cycles in each year and, moving too quickly -and unnecessarily- into complex cycles.
Best to form good habits and discipline now. Develop a healthy respect for what you are doing. It's a long road you're going down, no need to rush.
If in fact you were a marine, you'll need to exercise that discipline with AAS as well.
Roger that.... point taken
sound strong. Im 260 and my max is 365..... Im a weak ass bitch when it comes to bench lol
But for real. Not bad. I see people all the time trying to run tren or some shit their second cycle.
Test cyp for 12 weeks. Ive never used tbol but you always have other choices, anavar, dbol, adrol. But Not sure if tbol is harder or not on your liver...
Id say if you go with tbol for a kickstarter, get some NAC and a organ protection.
otherwise, nice for waiting to start using till your older.
Thanks bro, yeah strong lil sob when pound for pound but tired of being stuck around 180-185, so here I am... as for the tbol, heard it really helps with strength while gaining lil lean muscle (no bloat).. but have some u.s. version of liv52.... But checked your profile man, your a fucking monster!!! And look like you can kick a hole in someone's chest!!! Hahaha
Wht was your ai and dose on first cycle?....seems a bit much at .25 eod for 500mg test , imo...bloodwork mid cycle will confirm this...
Second cycle and second compound I would say proviron over tbol...why not increase the amount of free test and see how that works out for you?...if all goes well with the provi , it can be used full length in future cycles...
I like to wait till after wk 4 to start my ai, let the estro build up some, then bw after wk 6 to confirm,
Now I only run test ,provi cycles, ( some with a kicker like dbol or adrol) , and have found that I do not need to run ai at 600 test wk, however I still get bw done because the body is always changing...what worked last time, may not this time,
If your nutrition is up to par, then a little test ,provi may be all you'll ever need, ( .along with a proper pct,)...
Tbol is for a kicker, gets him moving plates right off the rip... I do love Provi n test, I run Provi ALOT. But it's not exactly going to give him a kick start sort of speak bro
And +1 blood work is a must to see what his body does with that amount of test and to dose ai accurately
Welcome level 2 bro
Thanx brutha!
Yah definitely needs to see how his estro reacts and how to control it....
I actually didn't run a ai first cycle, stupid I know, but was fine all the way until the end into pct when I know it was high. As for the tbol, I've never done any oral and it was recommended to me as I really want the lean gains with strength not the water weight that mostly comes off... also I'm inexperienced. .lol... so I will deff have to keep researching bro
Be honest man Im scared to pull the trigger on deca yet which is what I want to do. Figured since only my second I want to add just a oral, but back to the original question I didn't want the bloat of dbol but want the strength help while waiting on the test.... was also wondering if I can finish up with maybe the tbol, like weeks 10-14 if i run the test 12 weeks? or something else?
Hit the "reply" button to rely to a comment bro
Definitely don't run a 19nor second cycle, that's just asking for a bad experience.
Your cycle is layer out well, just remember don't start pct right away, start 16 days after last pin.
As for the tbol at end, I wouldn't do it. 4 weeks of an oral is enough for the liver brother, remember it's a marathon not a sprint in this game.
Good luck
Yeah I'm deff gonna wait till like my 4th, maybe next year or year after.. But got it man, just had couple guys say it's a light oral n if wanted to end last couple weeks while coming down into pct would be ok.. but like you said bro not a sprint.... thanks for the feedback!
Run the test for 12 weeks bro
Start pct 16 days after last pin of test
Not an issue with tbol just wondering why you picked that oral over others for this bulk cycle?
Reasonable cycle not bad +1