posted Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:27
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I have a friend who is dead set on starting his next cycle.
Stats
Age 26
Height 175
Weight 89kg
Bf 21-22%
He has done a previous cycle 500mg test e per week for 12 weeks. He has tried very hard at the gym. He used to be a big boy before. Weighing close to 120kg. Bf close to 35%. I tried to steer him away from doing another cycle. I told him to lower his bf more but he I'd determined. He has 2 cycles in mind.
Test e 500mg/w split dosage.
Boldene 400mg/w split dosage
16 weeks
Or other option
Test e 500mg/w split dosage
Deca 400mg/w split dosage
I was hoping people could give me some advice or maybe other options. If he is determined to do it I just want him to do it safely. Also any Ai and Pct info would be greatly appreciated.
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tread-mAgree with everything here. Gear is next level, thats means you need to get through the first level and earn a spot. The only way I could see any use of test is if he were to be tested and have very low T . In that scenario it becomes hard to advance metabolic rate under any circumstance of discipline. Fat promotes estrogen and then at some point you actually suppress T levels in some cses. I think a good place to go next now that he is open to getting rid of the fat and working on it is the doc for some blood work. If his T is fine within reason but his estradial is through the roof then he could even benefit from an AI to lower the estrogen and that in and of itself would help him drop his weight faster. High estrogen levels work so hard against you when you let yourself get in to his condition so to check and lower if high is a good helper to a good clean diet and hard work to get back to normal. Then we talk gear.
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Nasty81NateHe needs to put that determination towards loading some more weight, he's just asking for sides with that bf% . If he learns how to eat right now, he'll have a awesome cycle later on when he gets his bf% down to a safe level. Doing it now is risking irreversible long term damage.
Hei have always wanted to ask this. What is the most suitable bf% to start?
Way too fat man. Higher BF = higher aromatisation = nice bitch tits to show off. A cycle like that will push him over the 30% mark again in no time.
I strongly suggest he lose some serious fat, or he will end up looking like the michelin mascot.
Yes I already know that already but like I said he is determined
Yeah but what else is there to say? This is a standard cycle, and if you don't even know how to run that then I strongly suggest to put more research in before running anything.
Why would I give info to someone who shouldn't even be running cycles in the first place, when it doesn't even seem like he took an hour or two to google that stuff?
And what I find even more shocking is the fact that he ran a cycle previously without having any idea about PCT. This dude must be retarded...
Lol I just call him special. Yeah should of seen him on his first cycle. Man I swear. Nah but your advice is much appreciated. I knew his bf was way too high. But I wasn't getting through to him. So that's why if he goes ahead with it at least I can still hand over some advice that you guys have suggested to at least lessen the facts. Thanks for the help mate and everyone here. Ps saw your photo. Man you are a freaking beast. Congrats. People like you are the ones who keep me going to achieve my goal.
Thanks brother. I hope you see that we weren't trying to be dicks, but were just trying to look out for your friend.
It really is not a good idea, and losing bodyfat first won't take long given the right conditions regarding diet and training. He will have a much better cycle as a result, instead of turning into a huge mountain of fat.
Yeah I made the same mistake when I forat started. I was around 20% and I rushed into it without much research and looked even fatter and lost all my gains. Afterwards just cleaned up my diet and lowered my bf to 15-16% and then my next cycle was so mich more easier and the results were much more satisfying. Nah I appreciate the honesty bro