22week lean mass + cut cycle (Test, EQ, Tren......
My idea for 22 week cycle:
Week:
1 – 6 – Turinabol 50mg/ED
1 – 8 – Test C 500mg/w
1 – 8 – EQ 600mg/w
8 - 16 – Test C 750mg/w
8 - 16 – EQ 900mg/w
(16 – 20) – Continue use EQ or better take Masteron A and what dosage?
10 – 22 - T3 25mcg-100mcg/ED
14 – 22 – Clen 40-120mcg/ED (3w on, 2w off, 3w on)
14 – 22 – Tren A 100mg/EOD
16 – 22 – Test P 100mg/EOD
16 – 22 – Stan 50mg/ED
AROMASIN as needed (start with 12.5mg E3D)
First 16w clean lean eating with carbohydrates 4 of 6 meals. After 16w clean eating reduce the amount of carbohydrates to a minimum
START with:
Height: 188 cm
Weight: 115.5 kg
BF: 12 - 14%
What i want to get:
till 16 week get up to ~125-130kg BF ~12-14%
then till and of cycle cut and get BF under 10%
vascularization effect
I would be grateful for your suggestions and corrections.
Definitely something is unnecessary
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Hello Sir,
I will agree with @Rustyhooker and @Makwa, you are trying to come up with bulking cycle alongside cutting cycle in one that does not make sense to me.
Also phrase " Definitely something is unnecessary" sounds like you just described all the PED's you have at home and then we have to choose right ones lol
Regards
RustyhookerChasing two different directions typically does not end well. Spend a grand on gear to finish without goals being met. Harsh on body etc.
You post pix? Goal? Why thinking like this?
Bro I’m not trying to be rude, but I’m just trying to help. This cycle makes no sense. What is your previous cycles & are you competing? It’s best to keep it simple my friend. Answer this question & we will proceed brother. :))
When the OP never returns to answer questions, it makes you wonder why even post?
RustyhookerHappens often. If i give reply and op isnt there.... im done. Dude wanted spoonfed bs.
You had a 16 week cycle listed in Aug. With tren in the mix. Did you run that? If so you're hoping back on another long run?
T3 is a waste and a strain on one of the most important hormones in your body.
No! I finished this cycle in may. And this 22 week I plane to start in feb.
You are trying to catch two squirrels at the same time here. Not going to work out very well. Either bulk or cut.
Sir,
Now this is very smart, thank you!!!
Regards
basskiller89I’d enjoy hearing about your progress after this cycle
I prefer running the same compound(s) and same dosages throughout my entire cycle. I never got into compounding like this
Why are you running T3 and Clen ?
I have never seen anyone or heard anyone recommend EQ higher than Test. Typically Test should be higher than other compounds in your cycle.....I'm sure someone else can comment on this to clarify better?
Depends on your goals , less test cleaner gains , less water retention, les chance of gyno, less need for higher AI doses . Dryer look.
Typically if eq is run higher than test you see leaner gains and the bloat will be minimal. The nore test you run the more bloat. I will be running my test at 500mg and eq at 700mg my next cycle
My favorite cycle was test 300mg and EQ 900mg so I agree with you
That was where I ran my first Eq cycle & it was a good cycle. I’d recommend to have extra Eq on hand Incase you decide to raise it. It’s all about finding your own sweet spot.
I always run EQ higher & usually much higher than test. I don’t see the need to run test higher than needed & EQ is best run at the least 700mg-900mg & for 16-20 weeks. I almost never go over 500mg of Test when stacking.
I had great results on a gram of EQ and 200-300 test
When you understand what EQ is and how it works it actually makes quite a bit of sense to run it higher than your test if high dose test gives you sides
RustyhookerBoom!!! if high dose test gives you sides
Thats 1 bonus with a chem when folks fight estro. Eq is so versatile.
Completely agree. I love my test around 300mg and EQ at 800mg or even higher. I get zero side effects from EQ but I get a shit load of side effects from testosterone. I keep my test way lower than any other compound that I run with it. The only thing high test gives me is estrogen
X2.... I love Eq around 900mg & test low
This is good to know. Because majority of cycles you see, people are always running test higher than other compounds. At least in the years I have looked at others cycles. Glad I made my post because I think a lot of guys are under the impression that Test has to be above all other compounds.
The only time i run high test is if thats the only compound im running or maybe with an oral....but with other injectables i run between 4 to 600mg a week to let the other i jectables shine and do there thing... equipoise at 1000, test at 500 is a great gainer, the 600 test, 400deca stack is great as well.. somepeople dont deal with 19 nors so well with deca dick so maybe need a higher ratio of test to nandro.
Me personally as long as im at a 1 to 1 until.i get in the 700mg range which i really dont see any reason to go higher than about 600.... i think test gets underestimated with its potential and what it can do.
There was a time that my money was really tight and i had 9 amps of a popular brand of sust250 and i used 1 amp a week and made very good gains.
RustyhookerWhen i got to eroids, folks thought i was nuts running low test with eq. That was a long time ago. We all end up being guinea pigs and share out outcomes.
The newer low test guys are surfacing and posting about deca/npp. Ive known guys that run it solo with no issues. Others get deca dick. Ive not yet tried it but will in the future.
Im gonna do a little post, nothing complicated, just some sort of image map showing how the libido thing happens. Deca dick doesn't exist, it should be called out-of-homeostasis-dick!
RustyhookerSounds good! At least help get an idea of causes like DHN and how to fix the issue
First time I ran it was test 1,000g and EQ 600 and had horrible sides/estrogen. Then listen to a pro and ran it test 250mg and EQ 900mg and literally had zero sides and great clean gains.
Next springs bulk cycle will be test 315mg and Deca 750mg (NPP kick start).
RustyhookerThinking outside the box!
You like the high deca. No deca dick ? Cancel out e2 issues and saturate/grow? So cool really how we can all be night n day on this.
Honestly not sure and this will be an experiment like all first runs are! Didn't like Deca when I did it in reverse, test 750mg and Deca 300mg. So I'm trying in opposite.
Hated my cycle of Test 600mg and Tren 400mg but loved Test 300mg and Tren 700mg. So that's the bro science I've come up with and we shall see how it works for me
RustyhookerSounds like an exciting trial. Good luck to you!
Never heard that. EQ higher than test is pretty common.
Because something is typical doesn’t necessarily extrapolate to the conclusion that it’s mandatory or even ideal. I don’t know what started the whole idea of “test must be higher than everything else,” but it’s absurd.
Exactly!! I wonder how much $ I wasted on Test I didn’t need & because I was running it high I felt like total crap!
Agree fully with the above. At one point in my much younger life I believed that as well... Because so many people said it... Then I started thinking for myself and realized that it doesn't make sense. You run test while on cycle to prevent having NONE when the other compounds crash your natural levels (if your not on TRT). That doesn't mean you need superhuman test levels to match your other compounds. Just enough to keep those levels from dropping below your baseline is a true minimum in my opinion. I would love to hear other's thoughts on that though.
Thanks for clarifying.