+ 1 12Week Cycle with Cutplex, Anavar and T3
Hey everyone! so I'm about to start my 12week cycle of Sarcoplex's Cutplex which contains 75mg of Mast 75mg of TestProp and 75mg of Tren Ace. As I'm about to embark on this 12 week cycle i would like to get some input on this cycle as I do respect everyones opinions on this board. Though my stats show I'm pretty much nonexistent on eroids I've been a long time spectator with not much to say until now =)
So some stats and history since i know i will be asked.
Age: 25
Height: 5"10
Weight: 190
BF: 13-17%
Been training since i was 16 and seriously since i was 19. I am now 25 with 5 cycles under my belt. I first touched the juice when i was 20 which i know some will scream at me saying I was too young or I'm still too young but whats done is done. Though i might have touched the juice prematurely there were a lot of things i had to learn the hard way and it has really taught me to understand my body.
My last cycle was April 2011- Dec 2011. It consisted of of D-bol, Test Sus 500 a week, Eq 600 a week and some winny towards the end. Wrong move for me to do a 8 month cycle since i know for a fact my PCT was bunk(have bloodwork) and I was completely shut down. I did have blood work done and I did follow proper PCT procedure. I've been off the juice since Jan and plan on starting my next cycle 2nd week of August. I just got my blood work done and everything finally checks out it took me over 5months to bounce back from that cycle.
Also i should add in that i did take 2months off from the gym May and June 2012 and did completely nothing. Ive been hitting the gym hard since July 1st with cardio in the morning and weights at night with another cardio session. Diet is in check and the picture you see in my avatar is my most recent pic. I am trying to lower my BF as much as possible before I start this cycle might even push this cycle to the end of August or beginning of September depending on my body.
My Meal plan
meal 1 - 10 egg whites + 1 cup of oatmeal
meal 2- 8oz chicken, 8oz greens and 8oz brown rice
meal 3- 8oz chicken, 8oz greens
meal 4- 8oz talipa, 8oz greens
meal 5 8oz chicken, 8oz green
meal 6 8oz, chicken, 8oz green
meal 7 2 scoops of casein protein before bed
I do carb rotations as well with sweet potatoes and have a cheat meal every 8-9 days but i wont go into specifics
FINALLY My Cycle with the cutplex- This will be my 2nd time running tren and this time im going to do it right
Week1-.5cc of cutplex ED
Week 2-12- 1cc of cutplex ED
Week 6-12- 50mg of Anavar
1000iu of HCG a week
.25 adex every other day
Caber on hand
Also will be throwing in T3 25mcg pyramiding it to 100mcg towards the end
Wont go into my PCT for i feel like this all overwhelming information for a couple of questions but I did want to be thorough.
Question 1. Test to Tren ratio? I have read so many people saying to run test higher or vice versa. I want to know which ratio works best for you although i know i will have to tweak it to my own personal experience.
Question 2. Can i cruise on test prop for 4 weeks before going into PCT? Also should i stop the tren before i stop my test?
Question 3: Since i will be shooting up ED, I will need to find new spots like biceps. What pin size works best for you guys (biceps and triceps?)
So I guess thats it. I appreciate any answers =)
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Yea how did u like cutplex
I was worried it wasnt working but then week 3 BAM!!! Things changed like crazy only down side is that it has major pip even when heating the oils and taking a shower. Anywho I love the fact that i can have 3 compounds in 1cc. Have you tried the cutplex or considering it?
So.. how did it go?!
Its going amazingly lol. I didnt start my cycle till the first of September because i wanted to get my BF down to about 13% before i started. Things didnt really kick in for me till the 3rd week which was last week, now i feel like a monster and my body is drastically changing everyday. I forgot how much I love the Tren but unfortunately i am getting those night sweat attacks and major insomia but other than that things are great. I cant wait till week 8 to throw in some anavar.
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tread-mI would first try to talk you out of tren altogether this early so if interested in that reasoning ask. Given I was about your age and as far in you don't sound up for negotiation?. Anyway, 6 sites will be fine with ed and I personally prefer ed for several reasons and perfection in prop stability is one which is less lkley to have serious bacne. As to ed and extra sites, 6 sites is a place I have never had trouble with as far as ed goes. Having said so I have no pin pain or pip at all so you have to find out for yourself. The set up you have is fine for me, something I might run .
As for ratio, it really depends on what you want from the cycle. If you want more "tren effect" then you keep the tren high or not below test in ratio and for me personally if you want a greater chance of lean gains rather than just cut and harden then add a little prop to the blend Has to do with desired effect really and I will ly out what I think you would be happy with so you can think aBout it. .
1-10 blend 1 ml ed
1-10 add quarter ml prop to blend ed
7-10 var @ 60 split
1-10 hcg @ 250 every 3 days
1-10 aromasin 6.25 eod
1-10 caber .25 every 3 days
Standard dual pct begin 3 days after last pin.
Liver supps "all the time"
Use carb manipulation NOT t-3 without suppression
If you encounter undesired tren effect then you drop the blend to eod and hit prop 3/4 ml on the off days of blend pin.
Let me say this again, I would prefer you run a simple test run maybe a var addition and some good hard work in the kitchen, I really would. A lot of living ahead of you and I think you need to slow down and learn to eat proper in order to master bf to some degree with lean gains yr round and just do "the work". NO T-3!!! NO! Lol...you have ran these compounds before, my guess is you're goling forward so be safe, stay away from those long runs you had the bad experience with, drink tons of water in this one, cardio is going to shit so you absolutely don't want to be holding water constricting blood flow, driving up bp and making cardio worse...ask me, I know! Hard work, clean run high in protein, work the carbs over T-3 and you do well here AGAINST MY BETTER JUDGEMENT. OH AND QUIT HANGIN AROUND SPYING ON US WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING, ITS FING CREEPY!
Tread- Also did you mean .25 of aromasin eod? or is it really 6.25? Thats a lot of aromasin.
zewiits 6.25 not .25. Your thinking arimidex.
Ahhh got you! I guess ill be splitting my 25mg pill into quarters. Thanks Zewi!
Tread- Thanks for the input, I do have aromasin laying around and I do have some extra prop bottles. Ill run the blend by itself first and see how i feel. As for the T3 i do like the results that i get from it and i feel my diet is on point so it can only help. Do I have to run the caber? I was never really pron to proclination. Why aromasin and not adex? I usually use aromasin during my PCT.
Thanks again!
tread-mWell in running the very low dose of caber you will stabilize your sex drive in part, not just the prolactin issue as to overage showing ujp at the nip. For example, with myself I have an. Incredible sex drive running tren as most will do early and then I get desensitized at the shroom! What happens there in my particular case is not deca Dick as is usually described but I just can't get off even with quality wood. So in your case in particular, and that's one of the reasons I added a quarter ml prop to your hits, when you don't have test higher than Ace that side or even deca dick or prolactin issues is actually higher In possibility. So its a very low dose caber hit every 3 days and I think of it as prevention. May be much easier to prevent these sides than it is to correct them. On the aromasin preference , arom.ain is a drug that tends to build in strength as it pertains to effectiveness and correction of estrogen. Adex tends have some immune issues for some people and as time goes on it requires higher dose. One example is a buddy of mine here that used to use adex and slowly over time became gyno prone. Eventually could not even run dbol at all and found himself still needing more adex as time went on. So he later switches to aromasin and not only did he have to cut dose as time went on, he essentially got rid of his predisposition to gyno and would run dbol no problem. Now he will run a small maintenance dose on cycle and needing none during cruise and no issues whatsoever. Is adex ok, sure, I just think over the lkng haul the switch is beneficial. Entirely up to you of course and in fact one might even wish to run the adex for as long as possible and if immunity issues to adex occur or problems arise you have the alternate. Alright back to T-3, of course it works better than just diet alone but I don't like messing with thyroid just so you can have a few extra carbs. You end up having too much T-3 and change TSH for the period of the use and over time, particularly given how young you are, there is a chance you change your body's regulation of thyroid which could cause permanent issues. I'm. Not nearly as oppose to a precomp use for a closer in the last 2 or 3 weeks of a cycle but to find yourself in the habit of using it in entire cycles is a bad habit IMO. Now if a suppression is occuring to some degree such as with myself using higher doses of hgh , then that's an actual need and does complimen the cycle using T-4 but its for a reason. I just think there is a far safer way to cut between carbs and much safer compounds than to change your thyroid for the duration of a cycle and have your TSH screwed up for an entire cycle. I think as time goes on that may bite you, maybe not and maybe its a chance you are willing to take. (Theese are all just opinions. Not affiliated with any other offer member FDIC)
It's official, I'm not doing anything without consulting you first man. Sent you FR.
tread-mLol...alright, I'l dig it out here.
+3 just because i learn something every time i read one of your posts. Thank you
Thanks for all the advice, ill keep you posted and let you know how it goes. As for the T3 i only run it the last 4 weeks of my cycle and I do agree diet is key to anything.
tread-mYup, do that and have fun with it.
zewiJust had to go all out didn't we tread.. good stuff..
and the end is great..lmao.
tread-mLol...yeah I started that when he first posted and kept having to jump to text and phone (that time of day!) So took forever to finish.
zewiQuestion 1. Test to Tren ratio? I have read so many people saying to run test higher or vice versa. I want to know which ratio works best for you although I know I will have to tweak it to my own personal experience.
I usually go higher Tern then Test, they are both fighting for the same receptors, Tren being more anabolic I give it the edge.
Question 2. Can i cruise on test prop for 4 weeks before going into PCT? Also should i stop the tren before i stop my test?
Yes you sure can nothing wrong with that. As for stopping Tren Before Test you don’t have to both Test P and Tren A stay in the body the same amount of time.
Question 3: Since i will be shooting up ED, I will need to find new spots like biceps. What pin size works best for you guys (biceps and triceps?)—
I guess I’m more curious why ED and not EOD(comments below)? However, I like my Ass, and legs.
On to the Cycle I think you would benefit the cycle if you have a 10ml of just Tren A and Test P. If you have these I think you could really round out your cycle much better. Cutplex, Anavar the only thing on hand?
Also HCG seems a little high from my personal experience I don’t think you need 1000iu a week id go down to 500iu a week.
.25 adex every other day—and adjust if needed up to .5mg ED take adex all the way up until you start your PCT
As for PCT you will start 3 days after you last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Zewi- Thanks for the input I will consider lowering my HCG during my cycle but will do a blast during my pct.
As for ED I notice when i did tren ED it helped with the sides and I can definitely get individual bottles of test p and tren ace but that means 3cc a day of MAST,TREN and PROP. BLAH! HAHAHA! Plus i've been hearing great things about this blend so I guess i will see. As for the anavar i just like anavar, did you have something else in mind? Thanks again Zewi for your knowledge.