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Winny pct?

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I had a conversation with a friend of mine the other day, he told me he's running a winny with clen cycle for 12 weeks, clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. He reckons there is no need to pct with winny. This doesn't sound right to me but I am no expert, I did a 12 week test e cycle earier this year and got some great advice from these forums. So could anyone give me advice on this.

Doss's picture

The oral only concept is a bad idea. Winny is a dht, so it will only affect estro levels with a slight decrease. Because dht is a testosterone derivative, it affects the axis via negative feedback. In other words, production of test, LH, and FSH cease. Certain amounts of test and estro are necessary for normal bodily function. Without it as part of the cycle, all he has is suppression.

Yes, he still needs pct. No focus is needed on estro but the pituitary must be rebooted for LH and FSH synthesis and release, and the testis for test production.

MegaT883's picture

X2 listen to Dossier he's right even at 10mg it shuts you down.

eatbig's picture

Your buddies winny and clen cyle sounds horrible. Where is the test base?

luke300's picture

No test base!

Muffins's picture

I was research chem PCT when I first started messing around with Halodrol. PCT is still preached as a standard in the PH community.

crayon's picture

That doesnt mean they shouldnt, because orals shut you down just like most steroids so you should PCT. But i dont know if thats the case for winny, havnt done much research on the stuff.

Doss's picture

Anything that suppresses the axis requires the axis be stimulated for reboot.

It's ok to advise pct even when you're not familiar with something. Pct won't harm them 9 X out of 10. Just know that nolva shouldn't be used with a 19 like deca, npp, or tren.