posted Mon, 12/01/2014 - 17:45
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Test is normal but sex drive is gone (?)
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I'm 38 years old. I'm 3 months post-cycle. I've done 2 PCT's with Clomid and Nolva - both I had assumed failed to restore me because I have ZERO sex drive.
I got my blood work back today and my test is normal - in the mid 700's.
I was certain that my test was crashed based on the way I feel. I do not understand this.
My doctor doesn't know a whole lot about this stuff. He thinks I'm having a psychological reaction which I'm almost certain I am not. I know when I'm horny and how I get horny and how often I have to jerk off to keep my head straight. It's like all that just stopped. I have zero interest. It's actually kinda nice having this freedom, yet it concerns me.
Does this make any sense? What could be going on? Thank you.
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Sometimes I feel like whatever receptors work for sex drive can downgrade and it takes them a while to respond to the lower levels of test. Like if the sex area of your brain gets used to a test level of 4000 and now its at 700 I feel like there is an adjustment period. For me at least but it doesnt usually last three months.
Interesting. Thank you. That's actually aligned with what my doctor is telling me.
Did your last cycle include a 19-nor? ( tren, deca) did he check your estrogen?
My last cycle was stupid. It was a learning experience on so many levels. It was an oral only cycle. M1T (methyl-1-testosterone). No need for the flame. If I ever do recover from this, I will only be pinning from now on.
I have not gotten estrogen levels checked yet I would assume I could not have high estrogen because I have been taking Clomid and Nolva? My latest 2nd PCT was Clomid only. It's been 2 months since I've had Nolva.
Clomid and nolva do nothing to lower estrogen. They're selective estrogen receptor modulators meaning they bind the estrogen receptors in certain tissues (breasts) so free floating estogen cannot bind and activate the receptors and cause growth. So it doesn't lower your estrogen at all, just makes it so you can't get gyno. This is more nolva, Clomid doesn't do a very good job at all of doing this ( if at all). Aromatize inhibitors (arimidex, aromasin , letrozole ) actually lower estrogen. So being in nolva you e2 could still be sky high.
Bottom line is get your e2 checked. High wateon will kill your sex drive.
Thank you very much for the education. Much appreciated.
If my E2 is too high, what would be the best course of action? Aromasin alone, or with something else? And what dosage and for how long?
I have four 25mg tablets of generic prescription exemestane left over from a previous cycle. I presume I'm going to need more. I have to wait 30+ days to get prescription stuff, which is too long to wait. Maybe I'll start now on 12.5mg ED for 8 days and move over to research chem exemestane which I can get very quickly.
Any direction you could give me would be appreciated.
You need blood work before you do anything. Then if e2 is high and all you have is this 4 pills then I would start at 6.25mg ed or eod for 16-32 days.
I read some interesting data from a published paper that showed the effects up to 120 hours of just one 25mg dose of exemestane in a male subject. It's incredible how effective this drug is not only in lowering estrogen, but keeping it down, well after half-life, in addition to raising nat test.
This got me thinking, and I have a question. It seems the same question could apply to restoring nat test during PCT with a SERM, but I'll ask it in regard to E2. How is it that E2 levels will stay normalized after treatment with an AI once the AI is no longer taken?
Second, let's say I have elevated E2. Will my levels just stay like this for the rest of eternity if I do not take an AI, or will it eventually normalize?
Get a female hormone panel from private md labs for about $60 . You should have the results in 24 hours. Then you'll know what dose to use for your aromasin
Okay. Thank you for the referral. I didn't know how to get it done on my own. Trying to get my doctor to order a hormone panel is like pulling teeth.
Find out bloodwork results prior to any additional medication administration...
Okay.