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Test E, Armidex, and Pct quick question

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1) If you have been pinning Test E in the evening say around 11 pm or midnight can you still start Pct that morning? Ie do 50 mg clomid morning and nolva 20 mg then 50 mg clomid evening? Or is it better to get the exact time and start it at 11 pm nolva and 50 mg dose of clomid?

2) Heard mixed sayings... Test E originally planned pct week 11 (one week after last pin) some people are saying 2 weeks? Which one is correct?

3) AI I also read armidex + clomid is not good. Should Ai be discontinued prior to pct?

Ultimus's picture

Just wanted to update currently in week 1 of PCT last Test E was over 2 weeks ago. My weight has stayed the same and so far I feel like I am still really strong in the gym.

How long does it take before you start declining? I feel like I kept my strength increase... at least at this point.

mwagner630's picture

you absolutely should continue your AI through out PCt, this is when most people, myself included often have estrogen issues, rebound is not a fun thing to deal wtih. I dont think arimidex is the best choice for AI in PCT, arimidex only blocks the receptor so when you stop taking arimidex suddenly the receptors take up all that estrgen floating around in your blood, and BOOM you can the start of man boobs. i think aromasin is the better choice as it binds to estrogen effectively making the estrogen useless. its called a suicide inhibitor for this reason. wait till the test clears your system to start pct as crayon mentioned. as for clomid, and arimidex ive never heard of them being an issue but as i said arimidex isnt the best choice for pct AI. i hope youre not running clomid alone. you should be running nolvadex or toremifene with it

j223's picture

I dont think arimidex is the best choice for AI in PCT, arimidex only blocks the receptor so when you stop taking arimidex suddenly the receptors take up all that estrgen floating around in your blood, and BOOM you can the start of man boobs

that minor 'rebound' only lasts a couple days and that's why you take NOLVADEX and there will be no issues.

Ultimus's picture

Yes I have nolva. I was doing 100 mg clomid 2 weeks and 50 mg week 3 and 4 and nolva 20 / 20 / 10 / 10.

So ai should be stopped at end of the pct?

crayon's picture

Who ever told you to start pct a day after your last injection shouldn't be giving advise because he is clueless. You should begin PCT once the steroid has cleared your system otherwise its completely pointless and a waist of time. Test E takes 20days to clear your system this is when you should begin PCT, no earlier no later.

If you have been reading forums and saw people starting pct this early then its probably because they are using a different steroid with a shorter ester meaning it clears their system much faster, but because Test E is a oil based steroid, it takes much longer than say test prop which is a water based steroid. So wait 20 days before you begin PCT

Ultimus's picture

I may have mistyped, no originally I was reading starting pct 7 days after last pin. So if last pin was a mon the following mon. Aome people suggested two weeks pr 14 days.

You are actually suggesting what I thought but I have heard different info...