posted Tue, 09/10/2013 - 18:38
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Sus/Deca and PCT
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I wanted to reach out to the community and get the best PCT strategy for a Sus/Deca cycle I am about to run.
I will be using Clomid and Nolva and would like to know when to begin PCT, for what duration, and in what doses. I've read different opinions throughout the forums, but they seem to vary.
My cycle will be 10 weeks w/600mg sus weekly and w/350mg Deca weekly.
Any input is greatly appreciated and I can provide more details if necessary.
Age: 29
Weight: 205
Height: 5'11"
Bf: approx 10-12%
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AnonSustanon is garbage test levels will go up and down all week testp 2day half life Testpp 4day half test iso i think like 10 idk forgot but test decanote 15days thats long as fuck ull have to wait a couple of months before your test levels get to where they need to be
Deca same shit long ass half life 15days
In my opinion Sustanon is gay as fuck TestE and Testcyp and Testp or TestPP are the solid ones to run
And def hit NPP im doin NPP to cuase of the short half life no long wIts for pct and fucking my hormonal balance
Anonoh well yeah I mean who wants to be injecting some "gay" steroid like Sustanon LOLOLOL
Now I know why Im seeing rainbows everywhere I look.
AnonHahaha
AnonIf you havent started your cycle yet Id strongly urge you to switch this before you even start. Sustanon will pair much better with NPP . Of deca and sust the two have very different half lifes, and although on paper Sustanon looks like a nice long estered testosterone in actuality it isnt. If sustanon is only pinned twice a week you are going to get a roller coaster ride . Or you could couple the deca with test E
As far as a test / nandrolone cycle just get some proviron and some caber . Dont wait too long in starting your AI because letting your estro get high opens the door for progestenic troubles . Then at the end of your 14-16 week cycle you'll stop the nandro early and carry on your test injections at least a week if not two before you begin counting the days for PCT to begin.
Oh and I highly recommend HCG @ 500ius E4d at least for the last month of your cycle.
Thanks for all the input. Congrats... you have blown my mind ha!
I've done little research outside a sust/deca cycle.
Can you provide an example or weblink to a sust/npp + PCT cycle?
Or are you saying its more beneficial to consider a test e/deca cycle?
AnonYou can do it either way , the sust /npp combo would probably go getter with a lean gain cycle and the TestE/Deca combo more with bulker.
If you rant TestE with Deca your injection schedule would be every 4th day , if you ran a Sust/npp combo you could inject M,W,F
Either way you are dealing with a nandrolone and you really should run that at least 14 weeks.
PCT is going to be the same for either one and as described below . Still Id start in on that HCG during the last 1/3 or last 1/3 of the cycle, this will help you get jump start on your natural functions coming back .
Do me a favor so I dont get in trouble. Fill out your details like age weight and so forth.
He had all his cycle his history up. Must have removed it
It was a test deca only smaller doses.
Awesome/thanks-a-million for the good input.
Details filled in at the top of the post now.
Your gunna run your test at least 2 weeks longer than deca. Last thing you want is a 19-nor dominating your receptors and have no test in there.
You running an AI? Have caber or prami on hand?
How are you doing your sust? E3D, EOD?
Pct. 2 weeks after last shot.
Consists of aromasin, Clomid and nolvadex.
Aromasin 6.25 or 12.5mg everyday, depending on your sensitivity to AI
Clomid is 100/100/50/50mg everyday
Some users report Clomid affecting eyesight during the 100mg phase.
Nolvadex is 40/40/20/20 everyday
Off time is cycle length+pct. give those receptors plenty of time to regenerate.
Youngtricep98 thank you for your questions and info.
I could run Al and have easy access to caber/prami.
I'm doin sust like my last cycle, E3D.
Please clarify me on Aromasin... I start this when and for how long?
Also, do you agree with Noviceaas (thanks for the help Noviceaas)?
His recommendations are something I will have to research and are new to me.
And yes I agree with novice. If you have the funds I'd run that instead. Sust can be tricky to control unless going EOD
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10 weeks for Sust and Deca? You have more research to do brother.
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