posted Thu, 10/29/2020 - 14:42
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+ 1 SERM in lieu of AI.
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Who does it on cycle?
I know a few of you do, what are the downfalls? How high does your estrogen actually go and do you use anything else that acts as an AI as well?
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AnonGood comments in here.
PcushionAlso man keep on mind AI meds didn’t become widely used until the 80’s prior serms are what the golden era guys used. Not one of them were bloated, sloppy, pregnant looking bodybuilders.
PcushionI do it all day every day. Torem 20mg a day. The gains are better versus an AI and lipid values will actually improve.
AnonI thought it was you I saw saying that's what you did! A long time ago.
I'll look into it again, I love how I feel with higher E2 and I'm a significantly better father and bf/husband when I care more and act like I have feelings too lmao
PcushionYeah man it’s good stuff. If you try it your will scrap the AI for good. Torem is better than nolva in my opinion.
AnonSent you a pm
PcushionI got it brother.
Or when i cry watching a movie. The chicks dog it
AnonSure do. Told my ex I cried when I found out my gf was pregnant and she was livid.."you didn't cry once when we were together!" Not even when I found out my ex was pregnant..
But now....cry once at something important and all of the sudden you're an excellent father and get laid more? Win in my book. Idk why I didn't fake it earlier!
The cialis im taking with my new woman has my eyes tearing or glossy. She swears im crying during intercourse ..
PLUS ADD the crying during the movies. Were golden
Molinin302I will post my next set of labs, I try to always do that, hopefully the proof will be in the pudding. I go very light on AI, only the injectable 1mg anastrozole thats prescribed, but when I've gone a little heavy and noticed sides, Masteron cleared everything up, and it didn't take much. The more research I do into this drug the more impressed I am. Originally designed as a breast cancer drug, whose mechanism acts by way of blocking estrogen, it actually showed promise (clinically) in the way of lung cancer prevention in the studies of women with breast cancer. Look into it and give it a go. You have nothing to lose, trust me on this one.
Edit- I run B6 for prolactin control. I try to keep the amount of harsh meds as low as possible
Great advice to keep the meds as low as possible. IMHO Masteron is a great at Controlling estrogen. Im using it on my current cycle and i feel it works great as an ai. Still have pharma Aromasin and arimidex if necessary for me.
Molinin302https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5742531/
Plenty of articles, the science is there. And like you said, it's definitely a feel good medicine.
Interesting article Mol, but if you can excuse my inability to decipher the exact conclusion from the article. I understand Masteron is used to treat breast cancer, but is the article saying it can be used to treat other forms as cancer as well? Or that certain derivatives of it may potentially be able to?
Molinin302No problem my bro. Basically they figured estrogen will fuel breast cancer, they wanted to develop a medication to block estrogen to fight it. What they didn't realize is the properties of masteron with its estrogen blocking properties, and the hormones affecting other cancers besides the breast, is a considerable if not effective treatment protocol. What they didn't realize during its development, but found out through clinical trials was its anabolic properties. Thats the best I can simplify it bro. Doesn't shut off estrogen, just blocks it from the receptors. You'll still have estrogen in your blood, which you need, but masteron seems to keep it away from the problem areas. I'd highly recommend it to anyone in their 2nd or 3rd cycle depending on their response, needs, and desires.
My guy, Sincerely appreciate the simple and concise explanation. This is indeed very useful knowledge. It definitely has helped me control my estrogen and I love the hardening effects that come along with it. I personally haven't noticed any negatives yet.
AnonMan I love mast! I incorporate it into all of my adventures. I'm only on 200/week right now. 500-600 is what I'll use if I'm hoping to stiffen up and dry out a bit. Shit is amazing
Molinin302200mg seems to be the magic number for estro control and getting some mild hardening effects. Pretty easy on the body too.
AnonIt's cheaper too lol 1mL a week makes each vial last 10 weeks! $7 a week ish..if you don't get sales
Molinin302Exactly bro, and I'd bet that if you wanted some estro blocking benefit without any of the anabolic benefits the effective dose is much lower. Its a very interesting drug. Its probably another one they took off the market because it worked a little too well. Those bastards.
AnonI've heard of running Nolvadex with Dbol, I think it was bulkdaddy who said he does that.
AnonYeah I know there's a different mindset out there on how to deal with estrogen build up, just having trouble finding much on it..
Sooo many people keep it in normal range, or slightly above. I know from my own experience that I am significantly stronger with it high. Also the amount im able to hype myself up is higher than if I'm running something that simply makes me angry and mean.
It's two distinct feelings, one is very alpha "fuck you" rage, and the other is an almost tearing up hugely sentimental feeling. I've hit more big lifts while choked up thinking about how important it is to me compared to straight anger and aggression.
No homo?
AnonNo homo indeed. The way you prefer to feel when you lift big has nothing to do with sexual orientation. And there's no wrong reasons to lift either.