PCT question; not your typical PCT
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Stats:
29 y/o
230lbs
7-10% bf
I am about to begin PCT, as follows:
Clomid 100/100/50/50/ Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 Ari as needed. These are all at the doses you would normally take (read forum for doses, everyone lays it out pretty similar).
I have seen a lot of research chemicals being used id PCT, and I would like some input if I may. I get confused with the chemicals and all their names, they all start sounding similar, and most research labs do not give great detail because this stuff is not recommended for human consumption, yea yea I get it. Anyone that can offer advice for PCT w/ chems/sarms would be appreciated.
P.s: I also know some chems/sarms need their on PCT, I am aware of this, and would not run them during PCT. Also, I have pasted some good info of cortisol during PCT.
Thanks!
This is from a site about cortisol, AGAIN, the write up on cortisol is copy and paste, and I think it is great info, so here you go:
It’s extremely important to control cortisol as it can be extremely detrimental to your muscle mass. This is why in your PCT you need to include something to lower or block the high levels of cortisol until it returns to a relatively normal level. There are a ton of products on the market today to choose from, but some of the most common are:
B-Androstenetriol (B-Triol):
This is one of the better cortisol suppressors available. However, you will be best off taking this transdermally since it has bad oral bioavailability. It is relatively easy to find and is contained in many cortisol control supplements.
Dosage: 25-50mg every 12 hours
Methyl B-Androstenetriol (MB-Triol):
This is basically an enhanced version of B-Triol designed for oral use. The only drawback associated with it is that due to its alkylation, it poses a minor threat of heptatoxicity.
7-Hydroxy-DHEA:
This is another potent cortisol suppressor with great oral bioavailability. Two of the best products available that use this ingredient are: Lean Xtreme (by Designer Supplements) and Reduce XT (by SNS).
7-oxo-DHEA (7-keto-DHEA):
This is an often overlooked option for cortisol control. Most will dismiss it immediately due to its horrible bioavailability and a half-life of a mere 2 hours. If you want to give this one a whirl, use it in a transdermal product to bypass these cons.
Cissus Quadrangularis:
Yes, that same ingredient that many of us here use for our joint health is great in this aspect. However, rather than suppressing cortisol like the previously mentioned products, it blocks the cortisol receptors. The exact dosage will depend largely on the quality and purity of the extract used. One of the best available is SuperCissus by USPLabs.
Branched Chain Amino Acids:
Scivation is definitely onto something when they advertise Xtend’s ability to help reduce body fat and build lean mass. If these aren’t already a staple for you, they are a great anti-catabolic that mitigates the muscle-wasting effects of cortisol among many other benefits.
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About to pct myself in a couple weeks. Was thinking about a low dose exemestane. Not sure though. Ive been using arimidex the last 6 weeks because I seemed overly sensitive to the aromasin. But...ive since gotten a different brand and was thinking about adding it to my clomid and Nolva. More research needed though. Im not planning on it this time but i have heard good things about adding sarms in particular cardarine to pct so I'm also interested in what everyone has to say
SARM's aren't used on PCT, SERM's are used. I would advise against a SARM on PCT, even if they are supposedly non suppressive, they bind to androgen receptors and will knock down your free test levels.
If you mean by Arimidex by "Ari," you don't need it for PCT. Nolva and Clomid will be part of the regimen, and an HCG blast if you haven't ran it throughout your cycle.
Another pussy neg, jees there are a lot of these today.
Most pct strategy today suggests the hcg prior to the pct, even if its just during the 2 weeks after a cycle. Lots of successful pcts dont use hcg at all.
The use of an AI during pct is common, but not an absolute either.
Op, nice research on controlling cortisol.
What is your reasoning for running an ai during pct? There isn't an abundance of exogenous test to armoatize any longer. Would you suggest a suicidal or non suicidal ai, and why? Just curious about your take on things, I would be interested to hear a new opinion.
Couldn't agree more, and thanks !