posted Wed, 01/18/2017 - 05:37
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How long is to long to stay on cycle and how to pct for cycles lasting 6 months or longer any info is appreciated
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You are playing with fire in a dynamite factory running a cycle for that length of time.
ES1980What do you suggest? What to pct and for how long? Also how long to stay off. I usually stick with short esters and orals. Any advice is appreciated.
1st thing I would suggest is to limit your cycles to 16wks max. In real danger of frying your HPTA when staying on longer. Otherwise all you can do is maybe stretch your PCT out to 6wks and hope for the best.
Time on + PCT = time off. Then follow up with bloodwork to confirm if you have recovered.
ES1980Thanks for your time giving me advice i will definetly be putting in for pct this week from a domestic and begin running it. Its a combo of 50 mg clomid 20 mg nolvadex 5 mg aromasin times 50 would it be ok to run that out completly as pct or do you suggest something else.
I would opt for pharma ancilliaries but If you are confident in your source the combo should work. I am not a fan on running an ai during PCT though. It may be fine for the first couple of weeks but I wouldn't be running the asin for the full course of the PCT so pick up some pharma Nolva/clomid for the last month or so of your PCT and run that without the ai. You may want to include a blast of HCG prior to starting your PCT. A lot more people are more knowledgable about HCG than I am but if on for that long I would seriously consider it.
ES1980Thanks again i will run the combo for a few weeks and run some clomid nolvadex without an ai and look into some hcg. The source is good imo his gear sure is good by the way i look now compared to 20 weeks ago. I enjoy running gear was my first go around with eq and loved it, was told to run 16 plus weeks so i did and enjoyed it but will probably go back to short esters. Eq was so enjoyable no sexual dysfunction, anger issues (douchebag issues), or estrogen problems.
I've always enjoyed the standard 16 week cycle. But it also depends on what you are referring to being on (test, tren, dbol etc). Most of those you'd never want to go that long on except test obviously. If your cycle is an Enanthate or Cypionate base, then imo you're not really even beginning to see results until weeks 5-8, so that's why I say 16 weeks. If you're on Prop, than that's a different story since it's much faster acting. Just be careful with anything over 16 weeks as you're putting your body in a bad predicament for being able to recover fully. I'd recommend using HCG during cycle to prevent Atrophy and possibly end of cycle before starting your pct with Nolva and Clomid.
ES1980That is the direction im going in minus the hcg cycle was eq 300 test e 300 first 15 weeks then 5 weeks ago added mast e 200 and 50 mg dbol. Dbol is done was going to finish another six weeks of test eq and mast then pct 50 clomid 20 nolvadex 5 aromasin in mgs for at least 4 weeks starting three weeks after last pin then stay off for at six months following completion of pct any thoughts would be appreciated
I'm of the opinion that anything over 12 weeks is too long of a cycle. Especially if you want to save your nuts. I keep my cycles to a max of 12 weeks and have been able to consistently get my test levels back up to the 750 to 800 + range.
I had a scare a few months back, hadn't been on cycle for a while, ran bloods and test levels were in the 400's long after a pct and a post cycle blood test showing 750+. Scared me a bit. I took another test last month and back up into the 750+ range. The only explanation for the 400s was opiod use one week prior to the test. At least that's my thoughts. At any rate, don't be a dumbass and run long cycles. You only get one set of balls and unless you are making a living off of your size....It's not worth running it long.
Be smart.
ES1980Ive been on like 20 weeks aleady and was thinking of going another six then pct clomid nolvadex aromasin for at least 4 weeks starting three weeks after last pin and staying off at least six months after a four week pct any thoughts on this would be appreciated. This is the longest cycle ive been on never really get blood work cause ive always felt everything going back to normal but jwhat does the blood test cost if your paying out of pocket if you have any idea
Age: 37
Height: 5'8
Weight: 205
BF: lean?
Cycle history first and foremost. Secondly unless you're already on TRT (which I doubt you are since you're asking about a pct) do not run anything longer than 4 months and I only say that because if you're not running eq for 16 weeks it's kinda a waste of time. You're going to get shut down hard. Don't do it.
ES1980Damn it im already over 20 weeks. A source i use sells a pct combo of clomid nolvadex and aromasin in 50 20 5 mg in that order. I am thinking of stretching in six more weeks and coming off six months then going back on would it be ok since i am already in 20 weeks and by lean im not a pro so i dont get checked for bf but sure not much to pinch anymore.
It's not going to get better if you stay on. You'll only do more damage. Do what you wish but imo I'd say look to start a pct very soon.
ES1980Yea im starting sooner taking the advice from you guys it was a nice cycle. Eq was definetly side effect friendly sucks to come off not like tren 7 weeks in and I'm a douchbag.