Help with gyno and advice to get my head straight.
Hey Guys,
I have a bit of a problem and I feel a bit lost at the moment.
I started my first ever cycle on 3 Jan so I'm 4 weeks in now. The cycle is cookie cutter basic first cycle so just Test E 250, two 1ml pins per week 3.5 days apart.
As far as gains go I'm not seeing much yet although I'm 3Kg up most of which happened in the last week. Feels and looks like 60% fat/bloat and 40% muscle, my arms and shoulders look a little bigger. Not much strength gain yet. My gear could be underdosed or I could just take a while to come on. First cycle so I need to get some more exp under my belt to be able too tell.
Now on to the problems.
On day 5 I started getting strange pains in my chest/breast area. At first I though it was in my head because surely 5 days was too soon to be felling anything on Test E (so I thought). I was also noticing some increase in sex drive but that could have been mental too. The pains are not directly in my nipple it's more like slicing pains in my chest muscles. It kinda feels like there are glands that stretch through the muscle and these are what hurt. It's shooting pains and well as aches and it's pretty worrying when it gets bad. Sometimes I feel nothing and sometimes it's a real distraction. So far my nipples look normal and feel mostly normal.
Anyway I had some Adex on the way and I had Nolva and Clomid. I new I could run the Nolva for gyno so the next day I ran 40mg Nolva. I kepts running 40mg for 10 days. The pain got mostly better. On day 9 the adex arrived so I started that too, thinking I should switch to the adex and go off the Nolva till PCT. I took .25mg first day and 40mg nolva then 20mg nolva the next day. The pain got worse so I started working it back up in response. I've ended up going to .5 Adex per day and 40mg Nolva and I'm now getting the pain even at this dose of both.
I'm not sure if maybe the Adex is bunk but I got it from a high rated vendor and the serial numbers check out on the labs website. Since the Nolva seemed to be doing something I guess it's not bunk but 40mg per day and more seems like a lot more than what others are having to take. I'm considering upping the dose of Nolva to 80mg per day but I worry that I'm going overboard which that and .5 Adex. I also have a different brand of Adex and some Letro which I have not tried so that's an option too.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Adex and Nolva do not go well together, Research.
Use Aromasin.
I don't think it is gyno or estro related. I had this same EXACT problem happen to my chest on the left side. I surely thought it was my heart, so I cut out caffeine as well as other stimulants for a week. It did not work. What finally did work was when I changed my Pre-workout!
Are you on a lot of stimulants? What is your Pre-workout? Have you checked your BP and your resting heart rate? Please inform us.
Thanks Mate. I am not on any stims at all and the only thing I use for pre workout is real food. I also have just standard whey and caesin but that's not changed in a few years.
The pain really feels in the muscle/breast, not inside the ribs, my nips are now getting sesitive and hot. They don't look any different to me and no lumps I can feel.
To be honest its 1 of 2 things going on here. 1. 1. Your pct and ai's are bunk. 2. You need to go to the doctor because it is not gyno or estro related. Get bloods ASAP!
Thanks mate, The AI and the Nolva all came from different sources. That means jack but I might switch to the other source of Adex and see if anything changes.
With the doc I really worry about that. I'm thinking of just asking for a blood test and saying it's because I'm not gaining in the gym anymore, but I dunno what they will do when/if they see high test. Maybe I'll just tell them I'm taking a natty test booster that must be working really good LOL.
Ya try switching as soon as you can and see if the problems disappear. If they do not take a trip to the dock ASAP and mention your symptoms n let him tinker around and if he can't think of what's wrong then ask for bloods. And they most likely won't say much except what are you taking and just say tribulus lol. But take correct actions as quick as u can.