posted Thu, 07/25/2024 - 01:39
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Enclomiphene during the cycle
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Hi guys.
I know this is a strange question, but has anyone used enclormifene during an anabolic steroid cycle?
I advise beginners on the use of PEDs and recently I was contacted by a person who found information that there are clinics that recommend using enclomiphene instead of HCG during TRT. I found very little information and I would like to know if anyone has such an experience?
Here's what this guy sent me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AndaEN0lOg
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I was thinking of doing the same thing because clomiphene is cheaper than hCG; however, the problem with that is that the large exogenous doses of androgens taken during cycles will suppress the body's release of gonadotropins; simply blocking estrogen alone will not be sufficient to protect the testicles.
What I think would end up happening is the injected AAS like tren or test E would just shut down all gonadotropin release entirely and the clomid would fail to stimulate the pituitary gland.
The best plan to protect the testicles should theoretically involve a combination of hCG, AI, SERM, and a synthetic AAS that doesn't aromatize into estradiol.
estradiol in particular, is a far more potent suppressor of gonadotropin production, so estradiol should be minimized.
BJJ UNIVERSEThe idea that estradiol suppresses the production of gonadotropins more than androgens is understandable. I have also always believed that SERMs will not be able to produce LH and FSH during the steroid cycle, but perhaps they can maintain minimal production, with some peaks after administration.
I tried adding enclomiphene in addition to HCG and HMG, and I don't know if it's related, but my libido is gone. I assume that there was a significant blockage of estrogen receptors in the brain and this was the reason.
in my personal experience with anastrozole+clomid blocking estradiol only lead to increases in libido, but I have read that estradiol is supposed to play a role in libido which takes place in the brain.
BJJ UNIVERSEThat's exactly what happened to me. If I were on a PC. it probably wouldn't have happened, but since I was on a cycle, I felt very strongly how enclomiphene blocked my estrogen receptors in the brain, although perhaps I needed to reduce the dosage.
I stopped my experiment because I was practically with a libido level of -0 for 5 days. After canceling enclomiphene, my libido level returned to normal after a few days.