+ 7 DSIP Delta sleep inducing peptide is a PCT game changer
What is DSIP? Wiki explains it pretty well.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_sleep-inducing_peptide
We've all seen it on the peptide companies menu, but like wtf is this stuff for, there's hardly any info on what it does or how to use it. I got some just to see what it did and to maybe see if it helped sleep. I had just finished pct a week or to befor getting it and after 3 days of use @ 250 mcg ed I was sleeping a little more sound and feeling really refreshed on awakening. Then I realized how much bigger my testes were, my wife was impressed to :). I'm talking way above average lol. So I continued for 20'days straight at the same dose and about a week later had bloods drawn. Guess what testosterone 635, LH 11, FSH 7 for a 43 yr old male who had just run a 20 week cycle with compounds like NPP and tren a that will shut you down hard. Check out the bloodwork.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/bloodwork-5-weeks-post-pct
And this is while running Sarms ostarine, s4, GW which shows that they aren't very suppressive.
Next time you need an aggressive pct or post pct I wouldn't hesitate to tell you to try this stuff out. I'd be interested to see if someone that didn't recovery after a pct try this and see if it got the HPTA going again, yes this stuff is that good IMHO.
Here was my pct protocol, it's on my cycle log.
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/ostarine-s4-andarine-gw-albuterol-duri...
How does DSIP increase LH?
DSIP increases LH by the release of GnRH Gonadotropin releasing hormone. This happens during your deep Delta sleep, hence the name DSIP.
Why use DSIP
1. Help boost LH endogenous after pct
2. Produce more sperm and fertility if you and your wife are trying to conceive.
3. Possibly could be used for hypo gonadal syndrome or testicular atrophy.
When to use DSIP
I would use it after pct and not during since you are using clomid and nolv or torem and usually an AI it could be counter productive because we don't know how they all would interact.
I would use it next day after pct end for 2 or 3 weeks because it will only amplify what your pct has done for you by stimulating endogenous LH.
How to dose DSIP
100 to 250 mcg ed for 2 or 3 week
5mg vial + 2ml bacteriostatic water would be 250 mcg at tick 5 on slin pin
5mg vial + 3 ml bacteriostatic water would be 100 mcg at tick 3 on slin pin.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3121137/
Please post results and experience here so we can all learn
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Very interesting, thinking try Kisspeptin-10 or this peptide delta sleep for u personal opinión which one is better?
Thanks for the great info. I had been looking onto this compound for sleep/recovery.
unreal89I know old post but very interesting stuff dont usally look into peptides but that sounds intriguing
Great post dude.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3550343
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9349658
Curious about this one, FR sent
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3121137
A link you can add to this if you want and +1
Gotcha. You are solid Solidman!
Thank you. I have igf1 and MK-677. I will use 75-100mcg igf1 for 30 days and then MK-677 30mg for 8 weeks. All along with my pct. But first i will check with my Endo if i have an pituitary adenoma.
Hello humpnpump,
thank you for sharing your expierience. i have one more question. Do you use DSIP subcutaneous or intravenous? i am planning to run first a shot of triptorelin. then 5 days after i start taking letrozole for 30 days and then DSIP 250mcg for 20 days. Normally i do the standard protocol but this time it was terrible. i went back on TRT dose to keep up my libido and gains. My Nolva and Clom was 100% legit but after
8 weeks i still had Testosteron 187 ng/dl which is pretty low. I took Testosterone e for 6 months 300mg e4d.
6 months very well could have shut you down permanently, but it's always worth a shot. Yes it's subq with the DSIP. I would also suggest either ghrp or hgh to help bring the HPTA back into balance, it's like night and day when you use it during pct. Ghrp is cheap and would be perfect for you in this instance 100 mcg 2 or 3 x ed.
DSIP was clearly named by some scientist with a massive ego who thought he just discovered the answer to "sleep". Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide give me a break that name is like unobtainium level awful. Most people claim it is not even sedating. There has been very little clinical trials looking into it. Probably a waste of time.
thanks for that post hump. i will finish my cycle in about 8 weeks(12 weeks sust/bolde/tren + 4 weeks extra with test prop+mast prop+winny to wait to start the PCT) and i have to do PCT for a cycle of about 16weeks, i think i will give a try to DSIP after my PCT with HCG, Clomi and Nolva for 4 weeks
I wonder if something that stimulates lh would be helpful for a woman as well with a shutdown system?
That's an interesting thought, us men always thinking about ourselves lol.
I think in the NCBI trials on pubmed they had a co ed group but not much data on it.
If you know a female that is willing to give it a shot, by all means fill us in on the results.
dontgivemeadviceWhat's your feelings on triptorelin ? Wanted to run a long cycle. Bridge. Then summer cycle. Plan on competing that summer. 2016 in NPC physique class. I'm hoping trio will be my god send to get my levels back up. Of course along side hcg 500 out a week. 10 day blast. Clomed and nolvadex. All pharmacy grade.
Triptorelin is a one shot wonder, sometimes it works and sometime it don't, I here mixed data, some of it's probably bunk. From what I can tell this DSIP is a better avenue because you can continuously stimulate natty LH over a period of time and recover and you will and can tell if it is working. You should know the drill by now that it's always a risk of permanent shut down when you continuously run gear. It's your call, I don't take that chance, plus I like my time off. I'm doing a show probably and don't feel a need to rush it, take my time off and enjoy bodybuilding and working out.
dontgivemeadviceI have a few 5 mg vials of this from a source on here. It was cloudy when I reconed it. I emailed him and he sent me 2 new vials but it's still kinda cloudy. Was yours ?
No mine was clear. Could just be some kind of filler with the peptide idk. PM me if you need a source, I'll point you in the right direction. But that would be giving you advice lol.
dontgivemeadviceHaha. It was intended to be like. Give me experience. It advice. Lol. FR sent. The place I got it from got in trouble for having fake accounts and also had like 3 website on here. There still on eroids but got all their reviews removed from all 3 companies.
Decided to order some of this to do a 2nd pct run
Great! You should feel a difference after a few days. Please update here on how it works out good or bad we need all the feed back we can get.
rocketballzOrder is on the way as well! Adding it to the standard pct w/ Ostarine.
Cool try and get bloodwork while taking the ostarine if you can, then when you end pct start the DSIP and if possible get bloods again if first bloods look normal, we need to pin down which one is boosting LH and testosterone.
so i started my 2nd pct yesterday also put order in for DSIP
thinking going with
50mg clomid ed
10mg nolva ed
6.25mg aro ed
osta 33mg ed
500iu hcg eod
once dsip gets here i'll add that in as well at 100mcg every night?
think i should change anything?
Drop the hcg is will keep your natty LH suppressed, DSIP stimulates natty LH so that is what you want. Personally I would drop the clomid And nolva since you already pct'd, DSIP should get you back on track IMHO.
Also did you use caber in pct, because prolactin could be keeping you shut down, if not add some caber in .5 2 x week for 3 weeks.
I didn't use caber in pct.
I used it while on cycle tho.
I'll start the dsip once I get it and drop everything else.
Run caber .5 x 2 a week also for just a week, if there is any prolactin problem that should get you over the hump, and that dose isn't enough to cause any damage so use it as a security measure.
Sounds good
@sexweights, did you ever run bloods after your last PCT? If so, did you use DSIP after your PCT, and if yes, did it make a difference in your opinion?
RustyhookerNice read! Sounds like game changing info!
Well I hope so Rusty. MegaT has me stumped now with the ostarine for pct and bloodwork to back it. I was taking ostarine as well when I had bloods pulled
Damn good info. Something I'm looking into now. Thanks +1.
Thanks. I was intending to stimulate LH with a big blast of HCG but since discovering its progesteronic / Gyno sides I'm looking for something else + smaller HCG dose. I'll keep this one in mind. Any idea what it does to e2 levels? Do you have an e2 baseline from before your first cycle and keep it in the safety zone effectively?
I don't think it effects E2 at all. Look at my bloodwork 1 week after use E2 is 5.7 but the reason it's so low is due to the Sarms S4 has anti estrogen effects.
I would do DSIP and hcg together since DSIP would be endogenous and hcg would be exogenous which would keep natural LH suppressed, so if your on a cycle do hcg and if your off use DSIP to kickstart natural LH
Seriously interesting.. Was always wondering about the stuff just due to its sleep inhibiting properties but never knew it might add to the endocrine function and help with pct... brilliant +1