posted Thu, 12/19/2013 - 21:27
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Clomid/Nolva pct Help
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Ok so my last cycle consisted of Test cyp 750mg a week and Deca at 500mg a week. I started pct 14 days after my last test shot. I have been taking 50mg of clomid and 20mg of nolva for about 3 weeks now and my balls have not gotten any bigger. My sex drive is still doing great but is this something i should worry about? Any advice would be great.
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AnonDude u need to layout your cycle for us. Too many unknowns here to give u good advice. Like did u run your test two weeks longer than your Deca? Running test two weeks longer than Deca allows the nandrolone to exit your system earlier so you can pct better. For guys who need to PCT prop should always be used as a taper to have a sooner and more precise start time for PCT. Also I see no mention of Caber and your PCT itself is pretty week. You should also get some bloods done so your not hinging your recovery on guesstimates. Without precise blood levels you don't know how to properly PCT now. There's a whole bunch you could have done different but that's in the rear view now. Your next step is to get bloods done and post them up ASAP. Also you really need to post some stats if you really want to be taken serious
I know i fucked up i should have done more research and the only thing i have is enough clomid and nolva for 2 weeks at 100/50 for Clomid and 40/20 of nolva. I also have 20 anastrozole(arimidex) 1mg would these be beneficial for my situation.
I also have pramipexole but i didn't use it just kept it on hand in case of increased prolactin levels.
So how you know that you don't have increased prolactin levels. You have not run any blood tests.
Should i not wait till my pct is over?
You should of gotten a blood test during your cycle to check where estrogen and prolactin were at. Your running a PCT and have no clue where any of your levels are at. Estro,Prolactin,FSH,LH, Testosterone. Your running blind. Not smart or safe.
getting one done today, thank you.
wait you said you are doing 50mg? of clom? wrong.
your pct should of been 100/100/50/50 for clom.
get bloods, if you havent completely recovered get toremifene, run it 100/100/50/50 since you ran deca, when did you drop the anti prolactin. deca metabloites can hang around for a very very long time. you should have stayed on the anti prolactin for at least 2-4 weeks past pct. i run a ton of nor19's i run my anti prolactin 4 weeks past pct because of the long half life and nor19's lingering effects as stated below the pct your running is dosed wrong. also are you still running an AI you should through out PCT too
i have heard from numerous sources 50mg clomisd ED and 20mg nolva ED is common
No bro, its not. Especially for a deca cycle you need to up the dose and extend the pct then, get a blood test done to check
Ok well i do have more nolva and clom so what do you recommend.
What i suggested below, extend two weeks with first week clom/100 and nolv/40 then second week clom/50 nolv/20. Its just a suggestion let us know how it goes
Thats all i got left so lets hope it works. Should i get blood work done after or what?
Yes! Its a must, how else would you know for sure your out the blue? I would wait a month or two before you get the blood test done though
Your pct had incorrect doses bro.
Standard pct protocol:
Clomid (mg per week)
100/100/50/50
Nolvadex (mg per week)
40/40/20/20
You did the same dose throughout the pct of 50mg of clomid and 20mg nolva, which when using deca, is not good at all. I would consider prolonging the pct a couple of weeks and up the dose for a week to 100mg clomid 40mg nolva then taper off with 50mg clomid 20mg nolva for the second week
yes i ran test a couple weeks after and yes they definitely have shrunk. No i did not get any hcg. I thought they would be getting bigger in size by now.
did you have much shrinkage? I see you said they haven't gotten bigger so I assume they got smaller...but I don't like to assume. did you run any HCG on or after the cycle before pct?
Did u run test 2 weeks after your last deca shot?