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+ 2 cabergoline/dostinex how it works and the different ways to use it

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What is Cabergoline?

"Caber (Dostinex) is a very potent Dopamine Agonist. It acts on dopamine receptors in the hypothalamus to suppress prolactin production in the pituitary gland. It is used for Hyperprolactinemia. (elevated levels of prolactin in blood) It is also used in treatment of Parkinsons Disease. Now Ill get deeper into what the hell all that means a little further on".

"Half Life = 63-69 Hours. So I recommend to take Caber every third day. That’s at the far end of the range of its half life. Though this is what the dosing is for patients and studies that have been done and it works just fine. If you’re a stickler for dosing everything correctly I would obviously dose it every 2 and ½ days".

Now that is the way its written but me personally I take my caber every 3 days. I haven't had any problems with my progesterone levels in my body.The normal reference range in a healthy male is Prolactin < 20 ng/ml. this is important while taking compounds that cause a rise in prolactin that you use cabergoline/dostinex to keep the levels as close as possible to this number. To much prolactin can greatly increase your chances of gyno. With high estrogen levels in your body from the gear you're using then adding high prolactin levels you will most definetly be dealing with a gyno problem. This is why vets will stress to the younger guys like me not to add nor 19 compounds into your cycle until you are far down the road and understand how to control your estrogen perfectly with your AI of choice.

On the other side of prolactin it is actually a very important chemical in the process of causing males to desire to have sex so for everyone that says just crush your prolactin levels this is what will happen. You will be trying not to get decca dick by crushing your prolactin only to have no desire to have sex anyway. This is why balancing your hormones like estrogen and prolactin are so important before ,during,and after your cycle.

"Taking your dose of Caber before bed. (with or without food) will minimize your experience of sides"

This quote is interesting because I have never experienced side effects from caber but I guess taking it before bed isn't a bad idea just don't forget to take your dose to keep blood levels stable.

"Documented Sides– (bad sides) Fatigue, nausea, dizziness, vertigo, headache, slightly abnormal vision, hot flashes. Now before you get all scared and think oh I cant take this. These sides were mostly reported when taking higher doses (1g+ a week) then we will be taking for our cycles. Also Caber has been found in some instances to increase the affects of a.Depression Medication. Word to the wise for those members using any medications always look up the other medications that will counteract with your normal medications.

so as they say here these sides are rare and usually only when high doses are taken for a low dose cycle of a nor 19 you will normally take .25mgs 2x a wk. On a higher dose also depending on how you react to these compounds because everyone is different you would take .5mgs 2x a wk. If you were taking an extremely high dose of nandrolone deconate you might end up taking 1mg 2x a wk. This of course you will have to judge by the blood work you get done on cycle. You will have to get bloodwork done at different times for the different nor19 compounds nandrolone deconate you will need to give 5-6wks to give you accurate numbers and if running say npp you would need to get it done around wk 3-4. I would start taking the dose I believe to be appropriate the week before my bloodwork so I can see how that dose is working to control my prolactin.

Another big thing I have heard members cry about as a reason not to take Caber, is that it has been found to cause Heart Valve Damage. This is true but as I stated earlier, only at a lot higher doses (3mg/per day!!) then we will be using. If you look at prami and bromo you will see that caber is the better choice for 90% of anyone looking for a prolactin controlling medication.

"If for some reason you are prone to sides for any and everything, reducing your dose, while continuing the Caber will improve the severity of the sides. So basically if you experience a slight amount of sides at any given dose. Lower your dose until the sides fade but don’t stop using the caber! I would prefer some of the lesser sides of Caber to those of Tren and Deca any day."

this above is a tricky paragraph because I say if you can't take a prolactin controlling medication then dropping nor-19 from your cycle and the prolactin preventing medication is the way to go.

This goes back into what I discussed above with dosing. I definetly like with anything start low and raise as needed.

Starting dose of Cabergoline

Beginning dose of Caber for use on cycle would be .25mg taken twice a week. For a total of .50 mg a week. Notice the point in front of the 25. Its not 25mg!! Its 0.25mg. This dose is usually enough for an 8 week Tren cycle or a npp cycle when you get into nandrolone deconate the longer esters change the dosing.

Caber for PCT????

Caught me off guard when I was researching and they said you can use caber during PCT for what?

"I use caber during PCT to help with the lowered sex drive and slight decrease in the strength of your erections. It will give a little bump to your sex drive and give you slightly more powerful erections. During PCT while many experience depression and such, knowing that you can still get it nice and hard when you want is always a plus in my book. Since Caber is also known for helping prevent gyno. Theres another reason to use it during PCT. I run Caber during every PCT and have found that it does help a great deal"

I honestly don't know if this would be something I would do but I wanted to keep it in the write up so it can be up for discussion.

A lot of ppl put off adding Caber to their cycles because of the price and availability of it this is crazy if you are running a nor-19 and you don't want any problems make sure you have it. I highly recommend Caber as an addition to your cycle and maybe PCT.

Knew I forgot something. If you do find liquid Caber stay away get pharma grade or a reputable lab for something that is as expensive as caber don't chance it to some liquid or pep src. Most liquid caber is known for losing its strength over a period of time anyways. A month or so and the strength will slowly decrease. So stay away.

*Caber is associated with the above noted side affects. Though those sides are less common and less severe then sides experienced while using Bromocriptine and pramiproxle. For the record.

I hope this might help some other members. If anyone has any questions i'm not an expert i'm still doing my research but if I can help I will. I'm always open for discussion.

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I have to use it when running tren or deca; I am prolactin-gyno prone and had to have surgery to remove it about ten years ago and don't want to go through that again. .5mg once a week does the trick for me with no negative sides that I can tell and slightly positive sexual effects.

Also - you make mention of the sides being present in individuals taking more than 1g per week; I think that must be a typo as the tabs usually are 2mg or less each.

LTD