posted Tue, 02/05/2013 - 08:55
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Caber or Prami???
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From research I understand they both have positives and negatives. What one do you like to use and why?
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From research I understand they both have positives and negatives. What one do you like to use and why?
ADVISE
YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST NOT INCREASE YOIR PRAMI DOSE ANY FASTER THAN EVERY 3 days
Thus
Day one
.125,0.125,0.125,0.25,0.25,0.25,0.5,0.5,0.5
I would go even longer like 5 days
Read the manufactures advice
Search google for
Pramipexole titration
That makes sense, I slowly tapered up by .025mg every day:
.1, .125, .15, .175, .2, .225, .25, .275, .3, .325, .35. .375, .4, .425, .45, .475, .5.........ect.
That is 16 days, if you start at .1mg, to reach .5mg.
Prami. dosing. start low and work up. goal is 0.25mg
starting dose
0.1mg first (if you get liquid prami this should be easy to dose, if not just start at 0.125mg)
start at 0.1 and see how it goes. do this for 2-5 days, or until you don't get any side effects
bump up to 0.2 (or 0.25 if you don't have liquid)
this should be enough to control prolactin. keep at this for whole cycle. Unless you need more you can keep going up all the way to 0.5mg.
if you have leaky nips I'd try to be in the 0.75 to 1mg range. But for most 0.25 to 0.5 is sufficient.
run all cycle and during pct
Correct
Good advice bud
im going with the prami, ive done my looking around here, i find lots on dosing, but when do i start it and how long do i run it for?
What are you taking, Tren A, Hex, E, Deca, or NPP? And what dosage? I would think to start taking it 2 weeks into your cycle, but I don't know for sure how long it takes prolactin to build up and cause sides. Prami is strong, so start out low and slowly raise your dose, that should prevent you from feeling ill from it. Then stop when you get to a dose that suppresses your sides. I think you need to take it daily since it has a short half-life. I would take it the entire length of your cycle and possibly a few weeks after your last pin and maybe into PCT. Tren E and Deca will still be active for a couple weeks after you stop pinning. Then you should slowly down dose yourself off of it, so you don't get heavy withdrawal symptoms, I remember reading a forum and a member said he felt like shit for more than a month after stopping, but he was taking large doses.
im on low dose deca, im doing 250mg/wk im not overly concerned with prolactin at such a low dose. i know i should be safe though.
You might get the sides if you run the cycle long enough for it to be effective. I got shutdown from running a 19nor prohormone for a 6 week cycle. I started feeling a little suppression at week 5, and week 6 I couldn't get it up for more than 30 seconds. So I went on PCT right away. It took a few weeks to get right.
You will not see any limp schwantz or milky nipps if the dose is good, you must find a happy medium with the sides from your Deca and the sides from you prami.
I just put an order in for both, I want to see what one works best for me.
Something no one says about prami- Split your dosages!! If I take .25mg or more I get sick no matter what! If you do get prami (which I reccomed), try splitting your dosages up with each meal. Made a world of difference for me. No more nausea, drowsiness, or headaches. Good luck
I can take 2mg all at once with no issues.
The secret to prami is to slowly increase dose. Start at 0.125mg for a few days then go to 0.25. Make sure to also take at night time. If you are laying down and resting you will not get nausea and drowsiness is not a problem if you are going to sleep anyways!
Also for some they get no nausea when taken on an empty stomach.
You see you are just not taking prami correctly.
I did a slow progression from .1mg to .5mg, but my body does not tolerate it well. Unfortunately, I have a very sensitive stomach. This requires me to take additional steps like take prami with a meal and split the dosages. Your guidelines absolutely work for most, but then you have guys like me. The nausea from my prami causes me to toss and turn all night, even with the experienced drowsiness. That's why I said I wanted to add something. You are entirely right in what you posted, but you always have those guys who react to things differently. I'm jealous of your ability to take 2mg at once. Thanks for getting back to me though
Prami is the strongest dopamine agonist. It has alot to do with your personal body. If you naturally have a low amount of dopamine then Prami will be very hard to tolerate. Not only does it increase the amount of dopamine that stays active but it also repairs and activates old dopamine receptors that were previously not in use. It also prevents dopamine from being recycled right away.
So right there is three actions that raise dopamine. Personally I take adderall which keeps dopamine active so adding prami did not have much effect on me since I'm used to the high dopamine.
but I understand bro. That's whats interesting. Everyone is affected differently. FOr me I take cabergoline and get dizziness, headache, lethargy, appetite loss, heartburn, stomach ache and insomnia even on 0.125mgs!
Most people get little to no sides on Caber. So it just shows everyone is different.
Yeah, I guess that is one of the reasons why many get negative sides from it, they go balls to the wall right away.
http://www.eroids.com/og/intermediate-cycles/how-to-control-prolactin
I wanted to add something to your group post, but I need you to let me in first!
its not my group you have to request to be added. But let me know what you want me to add and I'll add it in
thanks