posted Sat, 03/25/2017 - 05:54
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Hey everyone, i'm currently finishing my second cycle
Test E 500 wk/1-15
EQ 500 wk/1-13
Deca 200 wk/8-13 (short I know)
Nolva eod wk/1-15.
My plans are to start a cruise on Test E at 200, and was wondering if there is any need for running any PCT protocol. Also would it be recommended to keep running the nolva during the cruise at a lesser dose or cut it out all together.
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The blast and cruise thing is for people who naturally do not produce their own testosterone off cycle, that's it. These massive pro bodybuilders you see a lot them cycle off when they get a chance and for as long as they can and the this is to give their body a much needed break from all the gear and shit and because if you want to continue to make big gains. permenanty damaging your hpta for no reason says I don't care about my health. So let's forget about the healthy side of cycljng and look at it from a result stand point, after a while on gear your body gets used to the drugs like is with most drugs. So you come off for a period of time, all your hormones come back to natural levels after a bit, Now when you jump back on your body hasn't been used to steroids for a while so new growth is sparked big time. When you cruise even on just a low dose for whatever reason when you go back on while you will make more gains, it will be nothing like if you took proper time off. Or even coming off and getting back on to soon. Results in the same thing, medeicore gains. Didn't give you body enough time to recover and enough time for your recrptors to be totally clear of steroids. The longer between cycles the better gains you'll make. Maybe you've heard the first few cycles are always the best? Then the gains per cycle really slow down despite the fact most of the people are now at the point where' they're running test lets say deca and dbol and not getting the close to the same results like so on their first 599mg test only cycles, better results from that then the 3 compound cycles they're running now. I've seen a bunch of guys who were seasoned users but quit for the last 5-10 years and they wanna jump right back into their old cycles and we tell them you don't need it, your body will respond exceptionally well to just test, you've been off gear so long it's almost like you're a first time user again and they Always blow up and get.great results from it. I'm not saying weight 5 years but I'm just showing you how beneficial coming off is if you wanna keep making good progress. Then the most important thing is the health aspect of it. I don't need to explain why coming off steroids for a while is much more healthy then not doing so even if you're only running a small dose between cycles, it's just healthier to come off completely between cycles.
This is really solid info and very true. There's so many guys at my gym in the 25-35 age range who blast and cruise that look like crap. It's alarming how frivolous people are with their health in regards to use of steroids, but it's cool because all their Bro's do the same thing.
And it doesn't really make keeping gains much easier. I'm on a med that destroys my test levels, doctor seem to think when I come off the meds I can stop the test and levels will come back. Fingers crossed, Anyways I've done it both ways, cycling and pct, and dropping back down to my yet dose after and I've done shitty pcts with just nolva from a research chem companies and kept every bit of size k put on, dropped about 5lbs of water rapidity the first week of two of pct so all water and some extra glycogen but a yeah I kept everything and kept getting stronger during pct and Thr few months after and it was down to just continuing to eat big and train hard but also smarts. Then I've cycled and dropped down to heavish cruise doses like 250mgs so you'd think nowway to lose on such s high dose but I slacked on my diet a bit and lost a decent amount of what I gained. So blasting and cruising doesn't automatically it's easy to keep your gains. Or after a certjsn point you'll be well over your generic potentially and natural test levels won't be enojvbgk maintain size above that limit and while shard true in many cases people really underestimate what they can hold naturally. At 6ft for example most of the tables and info say that at 6ft the biggest you can be is like 205 at 10%, so if you cycle up to 220 even with perfect pcf diet and training after you'll slowl shrink back down to 205ish. Well I know member here who runs a cycle and takes proper time off and he's 6ft started gear at 200 and now after I can't remember how long of a time span it was but he's 260 now, that was atleast a year so he may be bigger by now. Another dude I know is a genetic freak and was 5'9 250 at 10%. Before touching gear. 95% of steroid users won't get to that in that condition unless they're like 6"3, let alone 5'9. So the body can hold a decent amount of muscle when it matures and gets used to it.
backonroidsBlast/Lose & TRT
lol you're all so brutal. I love it. Thanks for the replies, will definitely consider sticking with the cycle on/off approach.
Yeah man time on = time off but to be real conservative do double time off if that makes sense.
Run hcg on cycle to 500 iu a week and keep your cycles simple you don't need a mess of compounds
Thanks man, haven't used hcg yet, only did clomid after my first go around. Will have to give that a try tho, seems like that's the go to choice for many people
You will still need Clomid for pct you run hcg during cycle to preserve testicular function... sounds like you should a lil more research and stick to honing your kitchen game till your ready balancing hormones is not to be takin lightly.
6' 185lbs... Go get chicken and beef with anabolics already in the meat ;) don't get that non GMO crap that doesn't have the good hormones in it.
How about mentioning not fucking his natural test or are you kust on here to talk shit -1 mother goose next time say something useful
You stupid fuck I was saying he doesn't need juice and to stick to FOOD you dumb fuck. He's obviously undernourished 6' 180lbs.
But there ya go again running that cock sucker again.
Edit: notice the OP just changed his weight to 200lbs.
-1 for actin like a fool and trolling this forum put your tinfoil hat on
Being stuck on trt for life may sound romantic and great. Take it from those of us who are have the burden of being on trt for life, its not cool, in fact, it fucking sucks. Get your head on straight. You're 27, make smart decisions as the mature adult you're supposed to be.
Uuuuggghhhhhh.....
Not only does this not make sense but it's HPTA suicide. Won't recover from that one smh.
How about no? Why put yourself on a permanent cycle? Its not worth it and especially since you are 27 years old. One day you will wake up and realize it was not worth it. If you eat right and train right you will never lose your gains. You also realize a trt protocol is to only replace what you don't make so that's why a doctor does a blood test and then every several months you go back and dial back or forward. So no one here will cosign your plans to trt for no reason at all.
SMH. Do you even know what you are doing to body?
TRT is the cool thing to be with the YOLO crowd.
Its funny, my mother and family still have no idea I have to be on trt. I dont understand the glamour behind it. I hope someday they make something that eliminates me needing it. I would rather live a normal life then have to worry about infections, abscesses, customs, traveling, nosy friends, e.t.c. then we see all these guys who have more test naturally that want to replace it with what they already make. WTF?
I was wanting some info from you.I have been on TRT for fifteen years now and am coming off with the help of a fertility doctor.So far so good but I am at the beginning.I was just wondering what you have tried ,since you have implied it hasn't worked.Any response will be appreciated.