ADVICE NEEDED: What doses and time-line usage for HCG then to Clomid After Test E & EQ 16week cycle?
What doses and time-line usage for HCG then to Clomid After Test E & EQ 16week cycle?
This is my first cycle and I have been recommended by an expert to use test e and eq low dosage cycle. Since I am 20% bf and want to "use" this is what he recommended to burn fat and stay safe for a first cycle and see how my body reacts to the drugs:
Test E : 200mg/week split - weeks 2-16
EQ: 400mg/week split - weeks 1-12
HGH: M,W,F of every week of 2ui. Increasing 1iu every month without going over 4iu
Unfortunately me and this person are only acquaintances so I have no further information but his advice to use
HCG and clomid for pct.
I have read 1000iu/ed for 10 days then start climid is what is recommended but then how do i use the clomid afterwords. Meaning ex. 50/50/50/50 or 100/100/50/50? please help guys thanks
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I agree with my man below. 16 weeks and two compounds at 20% bf for a first cycle is completely against all the fundamental advice we give here. If you had done any research you would know that. You don't need steroids to burn fat. Diet and cardio will do that. You say you're at 20% bf because you had three kids, did you give birth to them yourself or what? Get down to 15% BF and then consider a test only cycle for 12 weeks with a standard pct and AI as needed. Running a 16 week cycle is a good way to end up on trt. Standard pct clomid dose should be 100/100/50/50 with nolva at 40/40/20/20. You shouldn't need hcg for a test only run at 500mg each week for 12 weeks.
Thanks Whitetrash for the advice. N no I'm 20% because of responsibility to my family and not the gym but funny one lol.
I try to do the research my self but the here say there say and being a newbie I'm sure you can understand the confusion. Also while choosing to "use" I'm on the excited side to see results. But yes the turtle wins the race i have seen from manny professionals on forums and what not.
To help with the fat burn in your opinion with diet and excersice you think it would be beneficial for me to run clenbuterol and t3, or is there any gear i can use that you would recommend? how about HGH alone cycle? and is there any PCT for HGH? Can i run clem/t3 with hgh?
Fair enough I know it can be hard to find the balance and you were 10% in the past so you obviously know what it takes to be fit! To be honest I wouldn't suggest t3 to anyone under any circumstances. The risk reward trade off isn't worth it imo. Clen is no joke either. If I were you I would find out your tdee and drop your carbs in half for two weeks and then half that again until you're where you want to be in terms of bf. Keep fat and protein normal during this time. We want your metabolism to start burning fat. Start finding time for cardio - minimum of 45 minutes per day and when you're down to 15% bf then consider starting a cycle. You need to develop good diet and training habits now or you will lose any gains you make as soon as the cycle is over.
Thanks man you speak the truth, I will definitely be following your recommendation for pre-gear and post 15%bf . I read up on the T3 aswell and yea don't want that in my life.
How about the Clen @ 15% bf?
I read its hardcore but with proper precasions 6week cycle should be fine.
Proper precausions is I guess, (and correct me and fill in if needed) :
1 Hydration
-clean diet
-exercise (cardio and heavy lifting being the most beneficial)
-also have read not to overwork yourself outside with cardio on hotter than normal days
for danger of heat exhaution is more prone. True/false?
- strick bed times ( also heard it makes you sleep like baby? True/False?)
I would save the clen until you're down to 10% and are looking to drop to 8% and then I would only run it for two weeks at a time. You could run up to three cycles of 2 weeks on 2 weeks off back to back. You're a long way away from that yet so concentrate on diet and cardio for now.
Reducing carbs as outlined above will yield significant results. If you're not sure get the myfitnesspal app and track everything you eat. You want carbs at 200 or less, preferably 150, although that will be tough. Stick with it though and you will be glad you did. Protein should be 2g per pound of body weight and fat will depend on your tdee. Probably around 65-75g. Google tdee and you will find a calculator.
Take a before pic now so you can monitor your progress. Good luck brother. Keep us posted.
Thanks bro and definatly will do.
X2 on the clen and t3. Not worth the risk
Thank alloneword for your fast reply.
Yea I know and I'm aware. I plan to first start back on getting on my routine eating right exercising and taking all the usual nat gear to prepare me for my cycle. I gained a lot of weight do to becoming a father the past 3 years. I was long time gym rat and was in the army and was 5'10 195lbs 10% bf wasn't bad. I'm stating this to a sure you I know what discipline is needed with the results I want.
But would you be able to guide me with the info of the hcg and clomid?
First: 16 weeks is way too long for a first cycle
Second: one compound at a time. How will
You know which compound is giving you what sides of you haven't used either
Third: 20% BF is a bit high. The leaner your are before your cycle the better. At 28 you should be able to get your body fat lower without using AAS
There are no shortcuts and no compounds will outweigh a missing or lacking diet. If you can't get your BF lower through diet and exercise alone any gains you make with AAS will be lost once you're off cycle.
Thank alloneword for your fast reply.
Yea I know and I'm aware. I plan to first start back on getting on my routine eating right exercising and taking all the usual nat gear to prepare me for my cycle. I gained a lot of weight do to becoming a father the past 3 years. I was long time gym rat and was in the army and was 5'10 195lbs 10% bf wasn't bad. I'm stating this to a sure you I know what discipline is needed with the results I want.
But would you be able to guide me with the info of the hcg and clomid?