Advice after lab results?
How much Aromosin and what kind of diet change?...Plus how in the hell did my prolactin get so high on 500 mg test e? Caber on it's way as of now but dam I ain't running no Tren here....Plus my dam test level is at 994 off 4 weeks of test-e 500? I thought it be way the hell higher.
Been on TRT for 5 years. In the middle of my first cycle in about 2 years. I've run 8-10 cycles over the past 20 years. On a trest-e 500 I never really use AI just keep it on hand in case of sides. Well about 4 weeks and all of a sudden I can't get a dam erection (cialis on it's way) so I head and get the bloods. Someone advise on what I need to do to get it straight.
40 years old 6-1 194 lbs...No clue on body fat but yeah it's low.
4 weeks in at test-e 500 per week
AI on hand aromasin 25mg pharm grade
Caber is now in the mail after seeing this test
Nolva 20mg just in case
Clomid 50mg (just have it from old script from dr)
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 108 HIGH 65-99 mg/dL 01
BUN 13 6-20 mg/dL 01
Creatinine, Serum 1.18 0.76-1.27 mg/dL 01
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 77 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
eGFR If Africn Am 89 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 11 9-20 01
Please note reference interval change
Sodium, Serum 140 134-144 mmol/L 01
Potassium, Serum 4.3 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01
Chloride, Serum 97 96-106 mmol/L 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 18-29 mmol/L 01
Calcium, Serum 9.7 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.8 6.0-8.5 g/dL 01
Albumin, Serum 4.6 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01
Globulin, Total 2.2 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
A/G Ratio 2.1 1.2-2.2 01
Please note reference interval change
Bilirubin, Total 0.3 0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 52 39-117 IU/L 01
AST (SGOT) 52 HIGH 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) 43 0-44 IU/L 01
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 994 348-1197 ng/dL 01
Comment: Comment 01
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
1 of 2
FSH, Serum
FSH <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
Prolactin
Prolactin 16.6 HIGH 4.0-15.2 ng/mL 01
Estradiol
Estradiol 64.8 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01
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Est actually went up? Thats interesting. Is there something in the timing there, from when the test was taken versus when you upped the ai's etc?
I dont suppose you have any clomid and/or tamoxifen?
https://www.eroids.com/pics/follow-up-10-days-after-my-previous-test.-es....
Here is my follow up test. I still used same source but switched to a different bottle of test-e that I got from him. I took this test 10 days after I took my previous one after running 12.5 mg armosin ed. With my estrogen so high I'm going back to my trt dose until it gets under control. Going up my aromosin to 25 mg split 12.5 2x per day and then retest in 10-14 days. Overall though outside of the estroidal I'm pleased that that my other levels came within range such as glucose etc.
I have never had an estrogen problem ever and have been on trt for years. First cycle in 2 plus years and by using moronic bro-science I didn't start using my AI until my erection problems. Outside of the ED I have no signs of high estrogen sides. My blood pressure is great, no water I'm carrying because I'm leaned out and my mood is fantastic. Never again will I cycle and wait for estrogen to get out of control. I don't care if I have to take a dam blood test every week. I'm getting this puzzle solved.
Link to my previous test https://www.eroids.com/pics/total-test-on-500-mg-per-week-test-e-only-994
Quick update...feeling great. Work up with morning erection but I did take a 20mg cialias 5 pm the day before....but still though. Thank god that is progress. Bloods next week. Maybe Monday
Ok, so the test was taken on April 6th. On the 7th I started taking 12.5 aromosin ed for first five days and I'm now as of today on e2d at 12.5 Took .5 caber on April 10th. I'm taking a .5 caber on Friday April 14th and I'm going to go retest on Monday the 17th because I'm off that day and can go early in the morning. I think that by taking the test late in the afternoon and working out that day that it could have thrown some of the test off.
In summary.
I will be getting bloods done again on April 17th. When I pin on this Thursday that will make it 5 weeks on 500 mg. By time test is taken I will have taken 12.5 aromosin ed for 5 days and e2d for until Monday and caber .5 2x. spaced out on last Monday and this Friday.
I'm feeling great at the moment. Body is dry, mood is good, gains in the gym are solid but still have erectile dysfunction but I'm noticing it getting slightly better. I will follow up on Tuesday once I receive my test results.
Thank you to everyone on their feedback. It is very much appreciated
Terrible numbers bro. I would get something for the prolactin(low dose caber) and start taking some adex or aromasin and get your levels in range. Get retested in 2 weeks and see where your at. If your test level is still low then you know the gear is underdosed
Thank you for the feedback...I went and got everything I need and changed the diet to get the liver under control (take medications for other things that make it high) and I am getting retested in two weeks but this time in the morning. I heard working out the day of the test can really throw it off plus my glucose level was stunning to me.
I got the caber in today and I'm going to start. In your experience is it common for sexual sides with prolactin levels at 16.8? I know each body reactes different but on another board people were telling me not to take caber with that prolactin level as they believed it to be overkill. What is your thoughts because man my wife is frustrated...she is about to be better since with the caber arriving today so did my cialis. Again thank you for the feedback and any advice on lowering what you see to be the big issues in regards to my health is much appreciated. Got appointment with my doc next week to but he is clueless when it comes to this stuff and happens to be a close family friend for life which always sucks. He is litterraly almost 80 and has been our family doctor for 3 generations...Oh man he is going to give me the old man talk.
What are you doing to manage Estro? Estro is the cause of your problem, not prolactin
The high rise in estro will cause prolactin to rise somewhat and it has, but is not too high, so you wont necessarily need caber, (caber is fucking expensive and people get distracted by prolactin talk) just to manage your estrogen with an AI which will immediately cause prolactin to decrease also.
(Of course you can manage symptoms by attacking prolactin, but that's not the cause of your problem, estrogen management is.)
You urgently need to dial in your AI before you progress to growing breast tissue.
I took 25mg of pharm grade aromosin first days and then moved to 12.5ed so I've been taking the AI for last 5 days. Feel really dry but still have the ED issue but feel really good. I did take a .5caber Monday and then have another planned dose of .5 on Friday. I've redoing my blood work in 2 weeks which will give me 3 weeks since last test to see the changes.
Do you recommend I test earlier? Do you think I should continue to take the caber to lower the prolactin or is it overkill? Also with my estrogen being so high do you think by taking 12.5 mg a day is smart for the first 7 days or do you think I run risk of crashing my E-2. I'm also taking Zinc, Copper, DIM, B6, B5, fish oil and NAC for liver. I don't drink etc but have been known to crush fastfood.
When I retest I'm also going to schedule it for early morning as I did my last test near 4pm. I have read where strenuous exercise can throw off glucose levels etc. Dam I kinda want to go test tomorrow but it's been less than a week.
There is so much conflicting dosage information on the aromosin that it's like impossible to figure out without trail/error and multiple labs. I just want my broken hammer to work but alas my cialis has arrived
You are on the right track. You are dialing it in. However, dont swing too far which you started to do.
Really dry = no water = lowered estro (likely), so you may now need to taper back the AI.
I would recommend 12.5 e3d - so dont take an ai for 2 days then take 12.5 then e3d afterwards. You then assess when you get bloods and if you are crashing estro, you could prob drop the ai and time 1 12.5 dose around the inj shot seeing as you crashed estro. Again, this is trial and error, so step by step to dial it in.
AI will hammer the estro immediately you see, (your dryness shows that in 5 days you have dropped it significantly) however when you cut it or make a change to the AI it takes ~4 days (and up to a couple of weeks depending) to notice changes. So, you are aiming to stabilise now and it will take say 4 days to observe a change by doing ai e3d, then you may need to dial it up or down again. SO: no AI for 2 days, then 12.5 then no ai for 2 days and gauge how you feel - this should co-incide with your caber dose
Do the caber as you started and it may help with ED. As the estro has lowered the prolactin will follow but caber will not hurt this only help.
Once you have somewhat dialed the AI in, get more bloods which will show where you are at really - say 2 weeks ish??
Re: food: fastfood is always a mix of bad oils/fats and bad carbs which creates the perfect hormonal environment for fat accumulation and estro/test problems - get rid immediately for 2 full weeks, just do it buddy, just while dialing this in
Re: dosages - yes it is subjective, however, on test @ 500mg pw - you might need AI only say 12 hours after a shot to prevent spike in test or not at all depending on cycle length. Usual doses- there are no such thing as everyone is different but there are guides and you start there when hitting a problem. You did it with overkill, so its important to dial it in, ease back, assess after 4 days, change/continue and assess with bloods again
Thank you very much for the feedback. I will follow your advisement and will post labs here in 2 weeks. Appreciate it my friend.
Prolactin puts my dick in the dirt fast that's my guess about your pee pee but that's a guess not advice
pharmabruhElevated prolactin does indeed inhibit your body's ability to get an erection or maintain one. I'm guessing this is the case, too.
Post a picture of your labs...
Should really wait 5-6 weeks to test, test E to see where your peak levels are.
Just posted....Need to get my liver under check. Hate getting older
https://www.eroids.com/pics/total-test-on-500-mg-per-week-test-e-only-99...