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hey guys what's up (and ladies),
names nicholas.
in pretty much just read alot here on eroids and hardly post much. I added hgh into a cycle that I'm currently taking. well I started the hgh about 1 month prior before starting my cycle.
the first month I was running 2iu when I woke up and 2 iu right before bed.
this being my fifth week im doing 5iu a day.
my cycle that in just started a few days ago is
50mg of androl half in the am half in evening
50 mg of provion a same as androl.
and 400 test x2 a week.
I'll stop the androl in about another three weeks and I'll run my test cycle for 12-16 weeks. haven't decided yet ...anyways I'm pretty new to the gh and read some articles about how insulin and hgh go together pretty well and to get more out of the hgh I should throw it in there. would that be a good idea? or is there something else that would help boost the hgh? I plan on running the hgh for 8 - 12 months.... I have about 6 months worth so far... can some one give me some insight? people who run gh and what combos they've used to get the most outta it. I don't wanna waste it (shits expensive) just want as much as I can get.
thank you nicholas
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better have your prostate covered buddy, proviron is mild but still dht, so is anadrol a long with 800 test, prostate care is a must.
as for slin, its not too be fkd with, you better know how and what too eat at the right time, i know some beasty big mofos that weigh in excess of 120kgs of solid bulk muscle that still have hiccups with the shit, if you dont get enough carbs in you quick enough at the right time, you better hope the ambulance is quick, i wouldnt recommend it unless fully 100% dedicated to the whole game, weights, training, diet, nutrition, life style, sleep etc etc, if your not competing and just a gy rat, dont bother.
Stay,away from insulin period. Unless you are a competitive bodybuilder that is not anything you need to associate yourself with. Even hgh...I went from 160 to 290 in 10 years without ever touching such compounds. We all are different but what Im saying is...insulin use has to be deliberate and spot on...so much as so that its not worth the time even contemplating. Lift intense...eat well...be honest with yourself! And shit...the fact that your inquiring is reason enough to believe you have the fire in you to smash on them weights! Keep it simple...test...eq...mast...ya know the shit that wont kill you if misused just one time
thank you sir I appreciate it. I will.not be using insulin
Good brother! You don't even need that shit you're a big mofo! Keep bangin on them weights!
I guess your never as big as you wanna be
True that! It's hard to see with our own eyes.
Slin on first cycle? Lol. Slin is the most anabolic compound known to man when used properly. But fuck up and you'll fall into a coma and die within minutes. Don't do it.
4th cycle
pretty sure I said I wouldn't do it like 2 or three times!!! thanks for yourn two cents!
Yes, but sometimes people say they won't do something then they go and do it anyway. So just don't.
I'm not people, I listen to people who've had a lot more experience if the majority of knowledgable people say no then I listen. But if it's like one or two saying ehhhhhhh, and 6 or 7 saying I'll be alright.... I might take it into consideration , but even then probably still won't do it because i myself am not 100 percent about it.
I love this community! I'm glad you're here asking for advice before doing something crazy that can easily kill you. Glad you're heeding the advice down below.
that's the last thing I wanna do is hurt my self not only is it my body but it's gods temple. I wanna do everything g as safely as possible but also get the best results I can.
Do any of you members remember awhile back a member asking for advice regarding insulin? That member is no longer with us. If any of you guys know where to find that link posted up so this guy can read it.
I wont ask about it again.. I aplogize.
You don't have to apologize dude. Insulin is some crazy shit. Hopefully somebody will chime in and post that link for you to read. The guy that I'm talking about passed away. You can get where you want without it bro. That's what I meant by he is no longer with us.
IMO insulin use is for professionals only. Too dangerous for recreational users.
Hi Nick, unfortunately discussing insulin here is taboo. Most suggest at least waiting until you have 10 years of training and at least 5 off aas use before touching the stuff though.
Other than that the cycle looks decent. Keep pluging away. Let's here the diet and training side of this.
I apologize, so no to insulin. im fine with that is there anything else that might help? maybe run a 20 week cycle instead...
I get around 200-300 grams.of protien. and 300+ carbs
300 gr protein =1200 cals, 300 gr carbs=1200 calories. So far we're up to 2400 cals.
There must be alot more to this. You got 2in and 25lbs on me and if I was running this cycle I would be eating a minimum of 5000 calories and be pushing my way up to 6-7000 calories. 35%p 45%c 20%f (more carbs, less fat may work better for you, we're all different)
To keep from getting too sloppy you can always do some fasted cardio 2-3 times a week(20min), it also aids in digestion. Pineapple or digestive enzymes will help you process food better.
Others may say that is too much food, but I try not to fuck around in growth mode. Gaining muscle is alot harder than ripping off some extra fat, especially when you have new lbm that burns more cals. + you're running gh
I usually aim to gain on a bulk 10% of my bodyweight, so @250 lbs I aim to put on 25 lbs on a bulker. Your lbm gains become less as you get bigger. At this point a third of the 25lbs as lbm will suffice.
Rotate your lifts, heavy quads and 5-7 days later go for reps(moderate weight) (20). Stick to 2-3 heavy days a week. Do this with all your bodyparts.
Oh man. How I really appreciate this feed back. I will def and try and get more carbs in. It's hard in my line of work I work seven days a week 12 hr shifts( refinery work).... Looks like more protein bars and shakes and oatmeal, I've been. Doing a. Little dirty bulking, seems with the gh I'm able to eat what the fuck ever and I gain lean mass, I know I haven't reached the full potential of the gh or my cycle yet. But this past month I've easily gained 12 lbs . I'll def try to eat more.
Question do you have exp with the igf and gH being ran together ? I'd like more feed back. Didn't find to much on Google.
I have another question too , it's kinda off subject do you think wearing 10lb leg weights and 5 lb arms weights all day is to much?
I don't mean to laugh but the leg and arm weights idea is kinda ridiculous. Scrap that idea.
Your work hrs are brutal though.
IGF alongside HGH is a very useful tool commonly used in competitive bodybuilding. Depends on what type of IGF you're intending to use, (DES, LR3 etc) in terms of dosing and be very careful where you buy it from regarding quality. If you need help with it, drop me a line.
Hell I'm interested in this!
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Diet and cardio....u got the drugs u need on board. Eat foods and be aerobic enough for you to control ur natural production.of insulin. Diet modification and cardio will help u do this, especially with provi on board. Add Saw Palmetto to ur regimen and a multivitamin, if ur not taking them already. Look into chromium picolinate for what ur trying to do. If u use.insulin wrong, theres a chance u wont wake up after taking it...also u could look into peptides like igf-1..
I was reading about that igf but won't the hgh and igf fight for the same receptors? I zinc, fish oil, a multivitamin along with live 52...
have you run igf and hgh together? or igf des1?
Never used them together...
6 4 276lbs 26 yo
my 4th cycle