posted Fri, 06/22/2012 - 12:33
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which test should I front load with and how much?
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So for my next cycle I want to frontload, I have test E by bigd,genshi labs and veyron pharm on hand plus I got hulk labs Sustanon 350, i dont have any prop on hand at the moment so what are anyones opinion on which I should front load im guessing sustanon since there are some short esters in it unlike test e which is a long ester, what is the best way to inject all at once or spread out over the week, will be my 2nd cycle 28 years old 177lbs
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thanks for the info everyone
I have test e 4 bottles and test sustanon 350 1 bottles, i figure sustanon would be the way to go if I frontload, I ran tren towards the end of my first cycle im sure ill catch some shit but besides not getting much sleep didnt really have any side effects from it.
you can frontload test e by dosing double your dose for the first two weeks.I wouldnt bother though.If the receptor saturation theroy is true,those large doses will fill your receptors and make the following weeks smaller doses less effective.
This is just my thoughts,Dont know how valid it is.
i dont believe there is such thing as your receptors getting clogged up. think about it, receptors are being made all the time from working out and stressing the muscle, so how could they clog up when you are constantly gaining more of them. if this is the case then explain how the pro's do it with their heavy ass doses, and dont say genetics, cause that is only a part of it.
juiceinatorAs far as pros go.. That's a different level. Let's say you're just taking test. Over 1.5g is complete waste of time. Don't believe me look at all the other boards and see who's running just test and at a high dose around 2-3g. Now say you're running 2g test, 1.5g nandrolone, 1g eq, 100 mg drol, Hgh, insulin, t3/t4, you now have something that looks more like a pro cycle. Why does this work for them and not have to worry about receptors? Because of the addition of the other androgens and the hgh, insulin, and thyroid meds. They're body is going to be like a primed machine with this shit and will be able to use every calorie more efficiently and productively than that guy running 2g test alone. 2g test alone is overkill. 2g test+other anabolics+gh and the proper things to run with it=a body that will utilize damn near everything you're putting into it.
i get where your coming from. fuck doing all the other drugs, ive never had the urge to do slin, t3, t4. ive been going at it(aas) for around 13 years and i am just now thinking about using hgh. i agree that running 1.5 grams is a waste, the most ive ever ran was 900 of test, iirc 600 deca, 400 mast and 20mg dbol. dbol just kills my stomach for some reason. i try to keep my doses low, as of late ive only been on 100mg of prop eod. i feel like there is no need to use as much as pro's do unless you are trying to get to that level or after years of competing and still trying to get to that level.
I don't kmow for sure that's why I said if the receptor thing is true. I don't think they get cloged up,its that they desensitize.maybe that's why the pros need such large doses?
What are your plans for this cycle
You bought tren for a second cycle? Holy in need of research.....
You don't front load long Esters. What exactly do ya have? Four bottles of test?
then what do you frontload?!? short esters? for what purpose? short esters will already "kick in" quick enough within days. yes doing more of the short esters in the first few weeks could help build up more of the compound, but frontloading works best with longer esters.
I respectfully disagree. You do frontload long esters to reach and maintain peak test blood levels for a longer duration and sooner. From a recent test cycle where I did a frontload I put on a ton of strength and weight somewhere into the second week where when not frontloading it might be week 4 or 5 for same results. Of course there are several other variables. If you google "pct calculator" it will bring up a calculator that allows you to plug in different compounds and dosages. If you play with it you will see what I mean. It shows how much test is in your system week by week based on the dosages.
i agree with indabasement, you most certainly can and do frontload long esters. it makes more sense to frontload longer esters than short ones, since the short ones would be "kicking in" anyways.