posted Fri, 12/30/2011 - 12:55
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Vicious PIP!
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What's up eroid people!!! I just started some Sust 300 from Optimal Labs (AB)...2 pins in EOD the PIP is brutal. Guess that's a good sign of it being potent....but does anyone know of any ricks to reduce the PIP? All help and ideas appreciated!
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Anonfor some reason, pinning delts doesn't give me bad PIP..maybe worth a shot
Anonare you rotating inject spots since you're doing EOD?
I'm on AB's Prop and Tren. The PIP in my dorsal glutes and ventro glutes and negligible. But the PIP in my quads and delts make me want to punch a baby. I seriously cannot walk or reach for 3-4 days after injection. So I had this idea to split them, best idea I ever had. I inject my quad in 3 places now and my delt in 2 places. The lack of concentration from the crystals gave me my life back. No one wants to pin more than they have to but if someones PIP severely gets in the way of their life, I recommend splitting the injections. An extra minute of discomfort is well worth having the ability to walk and reach again.
It's funny u say this Jus cracked new vials of test e and deca from ab , pinned 3 cc of gear into my quads of Friday and Wtf pip from these new vials is fuckin brutal this time , maybe injected to fast but have never had this problem in the past his shit is always smooth as butter..
do the muscle and oil warming like the guys say,that always helps,what i always do is inject at a 45 degree angle no matter which muscle but make sure you go deep this spreads the warmed oil into more muscle fascia,always works for me,hope you get a good result bro.
AnonI feel you on that bro.. Maybe heat up your gear some to make it thinner.. it'll make for a smoother injection as well.
AnonI even get a warm wash cloth, soak and massage it a few times a day (IF POSSIBLE) .. i wouldn't advise taking your pants off at work or other places.. maybe buy a icy hot patch, wear it under your clothes. might help alleviate some of the PIP
AnonSust is probably a reason for PIP, virgin muscles would be another.. pop some advil and put a heating pad on it.. massage it throughout the damn.
Im running AB's test e and the pip is brutal for me too but this is my first cycle ever so im pinning into virgin muscles. I was pinning my quads with b12 and switched to just glute injections for the test e cycle and for me the glutes had so much pip it was almost un barable until my 3rd pinn yesterday. It doesn't hurt near as bad. I did take the hotest shower I could rite before my pinn, that may have been what helped. I was also putting a small air bubble in the syrenge before pinning to push all of the gear out so that none was left in the needle itself and I put a smaller bubble in it this time around, just enough to push all the gear out and not wast a drop. That may have helped too.
AB's gear gives me the highest PIP out of any lab I've used before but his shit works. Gonna have to deal with it brother.
pip could be down to a number of reasons, a few being a virgin injection site or high BA content
hmmmm.....been on the sus eod for a week....no pip to speak of..... runnin tren in the same shot....
Nasty81NateWhat's ur cycle history?
ItsNoelim on it i have minor pip
Shooting Sust EOD?
I'm on his PROP/TREN and sitting in bed with a heat pad while I write this lol
Nasty81NateShooting SUS EOD is the best way to run, it helps avoid small crashes from the prop. My first cycle ever was a 13 week Sus cycle with EOD shots. Fucking loved it! The Sus is what turned me into the prop whore I am today.
I dont remember where i read it but I seen someone talking about sust injection frequency. His advice was that it worked better taking it once weekly at a larger dose.
One way to look at sust is to look at it as one long ester .an ester that starts releasing right away and continues for long peroids. Each ester would be starting up as the last one was running out. he also said doing it that way will keep blood levels more stable. it was a pretty long thing i will try to find it
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Jtizzlewhere are you pinning so far? what muscle?