Ventro Gluteal site Help!
Hey guys I've been doing research and trying to find this honey hole but from the images and videos I just can't pin point the location. I want to use a 25gX1" pin. Can you guys share some knowledge and help me pin point this pin site. I've heard that once you find it you'll never let it go. I'm so pumped because I am currently running Prop and Tren EOD and I am running out of sites. I don't have any help and when I try to hit glutes I cramp up and can't reach them. So I'm pinning quads and delts. Well my left quad is still trashed and I have no idea what I did to it. Some injections go smooth but that one was 7 days ago and it is still killing me. I followed my usual injection protocol as well. Its not red but it is very tight and feels like its knotted up. It has me hobbling around. I would appreciate any and all info you guys can share
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Just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to this thread, hit my ventro site first time this mornin and took 2ml with no problem, def gonna be my new favorite inject site! I cant beleive after all this time i never had the courage to try it. Thnx guys!
Same here. I just started pinning VGs a couple weeks ago and it's my new new favorite spot. Easy access and almost painless.
Yea bro Absolutly great site, I do have a lil pip today, in all reality it is a virgin muscle for me, and also I pinned 2ml there, half tren base and half TNE wich are pretty harsh compounds, but still gonna be my new go to spot
I'm doing 1ml Test C250 and 1ml EQ300, and I did have a little pip first time around too but since then I'm golden.
AnonUpper right hand quadrant of the gluteus is where u wana inject
That's the dorsogluteal. This is about the ventrogluteal. Aren't you a med student?
HAHA Got 'im!!! X2
AnonO snap ur right got confuse im only human lol
Ok so hav someone place there hand on the topp of the head of ur femoris split apart ur pointer and middle finger in between those fingers is ur injection site
That doesn't even sound like english. Is that first hand experience or out of a med book or pubmed article you found online... To me the ventroglute lines up about where the change pocket is if you are wearing jeans. I'm not trying to offend you man but you always sound like you are parroting something you just searched for on google as your own knowledge. I wouldn't care if you sounded like a "know it all" if you were at least using your own words.
AnonIf u dont understand the language of medicine look up the words in google
AnonDude i said the same thing except i used the correct terminology the femoris is the quad bone someone should put their hand where the head meets the acetebulum thats the insertion of the head of fovea of the femoris to the ilium
I studied this long ago it came from my head from Anatomy 1
I know it's human anatomy and medical language, obviously. I'm just saying not everyone is a medical student; nor do we know what a acetbulum or fovea is. It would be a lot more helpful to newbies on here if you spoke in layman terms, describing the process of ventrogluteal injections in a way that the common man can understand.
AnonOk next time ill put the lamest terms in parenthesis
Im tryin to teach ya the correct latin medical termology of human science for free i paid big money so far for school i owe thousands of dollards in loans and ima be i school for another 14years but ill be making mad money and teaching and helping the needy ya dig
You're a douche bag. For a med student who uses Latin medical terms, your grammar and spelling are shit. No need to respond, we're done here.
AnonCome on dude dont get like that its all good
Forums are about learning.
Found this.. Hope it helps.
http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/4/0/405114.1075756688164.ventro...
When I use it i feel for the trochanter ( the part of the thigh bone that sticks out) then I feel the top of the iliac crest and pick the midpoint of an imaginary line drawn between them. Then I move just a little forward of the midpoint, mark it by pressing the needle cap onto the skin to leave an indent (so I dont lose my place) and swab, lat dry, jab, aspirate and inject. You can easily put 3cc in that space, if I remember my nursing instructors you might even get 4 in there.. Anymore and I would split it up.
Good luck Brother!
ugh that stupid ventro glute picture example is so worthless!! I can't make my hand face up on myself like that!! would be great for someone else giving the injection but honestly doesn't help for a person doing themself.
though your explanation helps some
SwonkyI finally got the balls up and pinned it last night. 2 ml prop and tren and the pip is bare minimum. Cant believe it took me so long to find it. I want to thank you all for all your help and support.
Did you use 1 or 1.5inch?
Gotta ask..... Any major pip from that site? It's been a couple days now. I'm kinda a pussy regarding new sites. I hit the standard 6. Glutes I'm struggling to reach I've been wanting to try pecs or something. This site doesn't sound too bad though.
If you want minimal pip but can't reach the glutes, then ventrogluteal is the way to go.
Congrats bro, nothin to it but to do it.
WithdrawlPut your hand on your hip area on either side and shift your weight from side to side. You'll feel it flex each time you shift your weight to that side. That's where you inject, right in the meatiest part of it. It's literally more on the side of your body, not to the rear like your normal glutes. I consider it a hip shot, not a glute shot. It's so easy to pin and I've never had any issues there.
honestly, so far this response has made the most sense. i feel like ive found the spot but also quite nervous if it really is where i need to inject.
It's triangular. Sit on the toilet and lift one if your legs, it Will bulge like that too. Or put a pair of jeans on, it aligns with the little coin pocket inside the regular pocket. I know it's awkward cause it's in the front and doesn't seem like a glute at all.
Hey Brother Jakdhippy has some awesome pictures with his wife and himself giving a perfect tutorial. Honestly the best one.I have seen yet. I haven't seen him around for a bit though.
aylmejorI would describe it as stand up flex ur ass. Now on ur side it dips in above that dip is the ventro
Read here http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performanc...
Plenty more information than you would ever need to be able to hit the ventro correctly
No1Flex your ass, its the upper outer part of the muscle
http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm
Also I would use a 1.5 inch
Unless your a monster of a man you don't want to use a 1.5 inch on ventro Brother. 1 inch tops and 5/8 works perfect . The spot your hitting might look fairly large but the muscle itself is not that large ... Unless your doing Ventro Cagles ! lol
I have been pinning with 1.5's no problem, but next cycle I will try it your way a couple times and check it out. Once you guys commit to pinning it you will be glad you did. It really is not that hard to find once you try. I know I am glad I went for it. Thanks everyone
For sure Bro... By no means am I saying it cant be done that way. If thats what you have been pinning with and its working for you then who am I? Im just saying on an average cat using a 1.5 you would go past the middle of the muscle. I honestly use 5/8 on all my muscle groups and a lot of guys would say thats a no no. But hey it works for me and I like pinning with a 5/8... And its always great to have options when it comes to pinning. I have been trying to hit a new spot once every few weeks. Whats funny is no matter how many new spots I hit the first time I hit a spot I'm still sweating like its the first time. Then I pin and pure relief..
Same with me, I break out in a sweat, line up the spot 5 or 6 times, prance around and then finally pin it, lol.
WithdrawlJust did a ventro shot about an hour ago and thought of this post. Such an easy and comfortable shot.
Right on brother. I felt it the first time I pinned them the day after, but on my second round I felt nothing the day after. I think it is the second easiest behind delts for me anyway.
No. That's the glute. They don't show the ventrogluteal on that site. The VG (on most) is not big enough for a 1.5. It would probably work but passing the center of the muscle.
No1edit - u are right I had to look it up I was thinking it was the upper outer part of the glute which is what I use
I just seen you responded to this . sorry Brother
I cramp up trying to twist to hit glutes too, I just bear through it and stretch it out asap.
The ventro is so much more simple than any video or diagram shows it. Drop your shorts, look at your hip bone. Stand with your weight on one foot and you'll see the muscle pop out right below the bone just a c hair to the front. Shift weight from foot to foot and you'll see it go back and pop back out. It turns out to be a pretty big area you can hit, but I try to just get the biggest point ( relaxed obviously, just remember the area of skin that came out the furthest ).. and 25g 1 inch is what I use. Sometimes switch it up to 5/8. Sometimes use 1 inch instead of 1.5 for the glutes. Hitting different parts of the muscle...theory anyway.
If your total amount of oil ed is 2mL or less put it one barrel, might help with pip if one oil doesn't give any, but will def help with running out of sites.
Quads are the worst for me, but you most likely just have tissue irritation. Sucks for about a week but not an issue other than pain. Still absorbs the substance and no permanent damage.
Bro have you hit biceps? It's my favorite site for sure you should try it.
BigBmajWhat size pin do you use? I could use a few new spots myself.
SwonkyOh man I've thought about it but it scares the shit out of me. Doesnt it hurt? How many ml's can you put in them?
I've done up to 2.5 ml. But bicep holds 1 to 2ml no problem.
I use 25G 1" pins but you can use 5/8" if you don't have a lot of fat. You can also use 27G or small slin pins too.
No pain at all.
BigBmajGonna go do it now. Thanks.