Tren/prami questions
So I just started tren e 500mg/test e 250. I've been cruising on test already,and I've done tren ace before at about 500~mg a week. My question is regarding how often and much prami do you guys take also how often. A google search says the half life is 8-12 hours so I'm assuming take it daily. I planned to take about .25mg a day.
I don't run any ai with my test since I've not had a problem running none at 600+ test either. But I did get some gyno from a previous cycle of deca where my caber didn't arrive in time (I messed up yeah) .Ran caber last time also have some on hand too.I was just wanting to try prami this go.
However since its tren e and I'm only 1 week in I was thinking of waiting till week 3 or 4 before actually starting prami otherwise I feel like its a waste.
Also on tren a I got some pretty bad cystic acne on my chest. Any advice for this besides taking accutane or perhaps lowering test a little to 200 might help. I doubt it but eh.
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Okay! You had your chance. I gave my homie P2i2t the green light to sort you out if you respected the info he gave you. Your just another loose cannon looking for a stamp of approval. Enough is enough!
P2i2tHey jinto...what's going on my man?I completely understand what you are saying.but as with you I will respectfully disagree as well.and it is actually for the exact reason that you stated.it is actually a psychoactive drug. and it has a short half life. now I know in my personal experience being prescribed psychoactive medications wich trigger and interact with certain brain chemicals such as serotonin,dopamine, norepinephrine etc., my prescription was always to take my dose both in the morning and at night. Sometimes three times a day. and the reason for this was so my brain chemicals were not spiking and dropping and instead would be a more consistent level.this goes for the antidepressants, mood stabilizers, and such that I have been prescribed over the years.yes, like you said he will still feel it after the half life is over. Because even after the half life is over the chemical will still be in effect because the chemical is still there just at only half of the dose that it was. but give it another half life run and it is basically gone.therefore, with prami the half life is 8 hours. after 8 hours there is only half of the dose left. and after 16 hours it is basically obsolete.so your dopamine is going to spike for the time being and then for about 8 hours or so...actually even longer basically considering such a small amount being taken (only .25-.5mgs), your dopamine levels will drop until it is dosed again. if you can kind of think in terms of something like Ritalin which affects your dopamine levels as well. somebody will take it and be great for most of the day but usually at night time they are crashing. Ritalin affects the levels on a much more profound scale therefore the side effects to spiking and dropping of dopamine levels is much more profound and noticeable.this is basically the same thing just on a lower level.it will not be as noticeable, but the same thing is still going on in the brain. this is the reason I recommended split doses.you say it is different because it is psychoactive, but the only difference is is that it is affecting brain chemicals instead of physical bodily functions and chemicals. the same rules still apply. but I also did state it is not a necessity. But between my personal experience with being prescribed many different psychoactive medications and seeing how the dosing protocols for them were, and just my simple logic in general, this is why I feel it would be the ideal way to go.like I said, definitely not a necessity and I guarantee you more than three quarters of the people who take it only Dose 1 time per day. I definitely did not say it is the only way to take it or it will not work.it is just for the reasons I stated I believe would be the optimal way. That's all.either way it is dosed it will still be effective. I'm not trying to start a debate or anything, and I am definitely not trying to argue with you as I am sure you know. you stated your reasons for believing what you do and I am just stating mine.nothing more nothing less. I definitely respect your theory and conclusion though as I always will
Prami sides are worse than the actual Tren. One of them is lack of sleep/sudden wake ups lol... By the way, if you only 23, the dudes here will tear you a new butthole, just saying, not like you care what others think, but you look like a YOLO looking for opinions, everyone is different
Tren-e at 23, wtf is wrong with you dude? You must not care about your future...
I understand what you mean. I was just speaking from personal experience. Yes I have used both. When I used prami I tried ramping up to .25mg a day. Not for long though. My body just couldn't get used or adjusted to the medication. Maybe I just didn't give it enough time which was around probably 3-5 days as you stated. LOL. Man it just wan't worth it to me. I got sick a couple of times even though I took my doses at night. I felt weird i guess is the best way to describe it the whole week I was on it. When I take caber it doesn't do any of the above to me and I feel great on it. Plus I only need to take it twice a week. Yes you are correct prami is much more affordable. It's just not worth it for me. As far as the iGF1 levels go. That's not really a concern for me, considering all the other stuff that we can take to help increase them. I'm not saying more is better. I think you know what I mean. I gotta tell you man. I've always read a lot of what you post in the forums and I must say that I've learned a lot from your posts.
There are so many side effects and issues with a lot of people that take prami. Why not just stick with caber? It's a hell of a lot easier on you. From my experience with both, I would take caber over prami.
I have an off topic question for you. What kind of results do you expect from this cycle compared to your tren ace one?
P2i2tWell, I was given permission to help you with this considering you seem to have used enough aas, from your claims anyways. So First off I believe ultimately that with the amount you plan on running .25 daily usually would suffice.but considering you have stated you had previous prolactin induced gyno issues you might need a little more. but not necessarily so just make sure you are on point when running that amount and feel for any changes in yourself and especially in the nipple area. the most important thing to know about running prami is that it absolutely needs to be ramped up slowly.this gives for what my guess would be at least 75% of people. Otherwise they feel sick and weird all day. It can create headaches, nausea, restlessness, and the list goes on. in your situation you should want to be taking the full dose that you will be by week four.so in a normal instance such as if you were using caber you would start in week 4. BUT since you need to ramp up your dose and you should be taking the full dose by then you need to start earlier.the way I would do it is start in week two taking .625mg (1/4 of .25) daily for one week. then double that amount to .125 (half of. 25) the next week and run that for a week. this way by week for you can double that amount again and be running your .25 daily. I personally believe this would be the best way to do it.also,I take mine in Split doses throughout the day. Morning and night.I do this with any compound that has a half life less than 12 hours.this is not an absolute necessity, but it is definitely the ideal way to run it.so a quick recap, start week two at. 625 and ramp up your doses over the next two weeks.bye week for you will be running your full .25 daily. Preferably split doses. but the most important part is to remember to listen to your body!and this is much more serious in your case because you have already had problems.it seems to be that people with previous problems are more susceptible to other problems occurring.any other questions feel free to reply and ask bro. Hope this helped a little. if I think of anymore I will come and fill it in
AinewThanks for the reply. Yeah i've already done some testing taking .125 3 days then .25~ 3 days right before bed and I've felt fine. So in about 1 week or so I'll start .125 again for 3 days then continue on .25 and adjust accordingly. I took tren a for a while with no caber (I had it on hand) got no symptoms. But I started taking it anyway. But deca ...yeah never doing deca again lol. Got a bit of gyno from it and not as much benefits from tren. If I find the prami isn't working I'll switch to half a tab of caber e3d again.
For those asking why I want to do prami instead of caber, No reason really just wanted to see if I like it better. Plus the prami ships a lot faster haha.
P2i2tsounds good to me bro.just remember, listen to your body closely. if you start to feel anything out of whack either up your dose or switch back to caber ASAP. like I said, I am personally using prami at the moment and have been for a while now.I have pharma caber on hand as well but am choosing to run this instead. I have not had one negative side effects from it. I ramped up properly and don't even know I am taking it. not to mention the cost benefit is much greater as well.so if it is something you can tolerate it also has other health benefits such as jinto pointed out with igf 1 levels. caver can actually lower igf-1 levels.although studies have shown it has to be at a significant dose in order for that to happen.so good luck and let us know what you think after a while
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P2i2tTell us your previous cycle experience bro and we're good to go. How long you have been cycling for and how many cycles you have ran. Also with which compounds you have experience with
AinewI updated my profile thing. Honestly I started to cycle but near the end of my first test 500/dbol I was doing reading and decided to just do Blast and cruise so I've done about 4 blasts now.
I've used test e,tren a,anadrol,and dbol. Ai i've used adex and caber,my current questions are just about prami as I'm trying to get an idea how much a standard dose is, and how often its taken. I did .50mg e3d of caber for previous cycles of tren to compare.
Blast and cruise in your early 20s? Why? Does having muscles pay the bills or make you a better person? So much more to life than having a little muscle like a family, kids and living a healthy life with balance.
AinewI don't really plan on having a family or kids. I don't think the amount of drugs I'm using is going to effect my health in a negative way. Its a personal choice I enjoy working out on drugs I enjoy using them makes me happier in life in general.
I personally don't understand an arbitrary age where its okay to give advice or not. But if that's the rules not much I can about it. I will just figure it out on my own either way haha.
P2i2tyou are under 25 bro. When I first looked at it for some reason I thought it said 28. I wrote up a nice little informative write up for you and double checked and saw it said 23. I apologize and it is nothing personal but it is against policy to give anybody under 25 cycle advice. and I will be the one getting in trouble if I give you advice.
*edit...considering it seems you have a decent amount of AAS experience I was given permission to help you with this.but just know that any further advice you were searching for will not be allowed to be given by us.
P2i2they bro. Throw up these numbers for me and I will help you out to the best of my ability. I have ran tren for a few years now and I am currently running prami with it. let's get some info about you first though..
Age
height
weight
body fat %
previous cycle experience
how long you have been training for
*fill this info in not just here but on your profile as well otherwise you will be asked this every time you ask for advice bro.
*edit I see you filled in the first four on your profile. Previous cycle experience and training experience is a must.
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