-2 Tren not for newb lol
Hey guys I started this forum to share my experience with tren a. Ok so my buddy was selling me tren a(home brew). Told me most the tricks and I went after it. He was an absolute beast so I was confident. After running eod and spending countless hours at the gym I wasn't very impressed with the results though I was getting stronger i wasn't get much bigger. Made me sad because 20 ml was costing me 200 a pop plus gym fees and food I was really getting upset. So I asked him "what do I do?" He tol me to eat like I never had before so I literally started carrying chicken in my pockets everywhere I went. If I woke up in the middle of the night I ate ate ate. After about two weeks of eating my brains out I started to get big like really big(to me anyways) the biggest i got was 195 but when you go from 165 in about 5 weeks it was truly astonishing even my guy couldn't believe it. I cut my gym time to 45 minutes a day 4 or 5 times a week. I ate anything and everything. At one point I had a guy tell me "dude you should be in a mag". After I really learned the secrets i stacked sust 250 with. I would love to hear from some guys on their experiences with tren or any other steroid for that matter. If I broke any rules please lets know.
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Do me a favor bro. Accept the friend request I sent u. I'd like to talk to u thru pm. I'm on a tren a, test p, and EQ 250 cycle right now and wanna ask u a few questions. Hopefully I'll talk to u soon
tren is both more potent as well as having a safer profile then testosterone. The problem lies in the high dosing used or combining tren with large doses of test. In growing steers they use 400mg in pellets every two months. They castrate the steers before using tren and add a little estradiol for a potent growth cocktail. The below abstract gives some insight into trenbolones specific properties
Tissue selectivity and potential clinical applications of trenbolone (17B-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one): A potent anabolic steroid with reduced androgenic and estrogenic activity
Joshua F. Yarrowa,b,∗, Sean C. McCoya,b, Stephen E. Borsta,b
a Geriatric Research, Education & Clinical Center, VA Medical Center, Gainesville, FL 32608, United States
b Department of Applied Physiology & Kinesiology, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL 32611, United States
Recently, the development of selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) has been suggested as a means of combating the deleterious catabolic effects of hypogonadism, especially in skeletal muscle and bone, without inducing the undesirable androgenic effects (e.g., prostate enlargement and polycythemia) associated with testosterone administration. 17B-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone; 17B- TBOH), a synthetic analog of testosterone, may be capable of inducing SARM-like effects as it binds to androgen receptors (ARs) with approximately three times the affinity of testosterone and has been shown to augment skeletal muscle mass and bone growth and reduce adiposity in a variety of mam- malian species. In addition to its direct actions through ARs, 17B-TBOH may also exert anabolic effects by altering the action of endogenous growth factors or inhibiting the action of glucocorticoids. Compared to testosterone, 17B-TBOH appears to induce less growth in androgen-sensitive organs which highly express the 5alpha reductase enzyme (e.g., prostate tissue and accessory sex organs). The reduced andro- genic effects result from the fact that 17B-TBOH is metabolized to less potent androgens in vivo; while testosterone undergoes tissue-specific biotransformation to more potent steroids, dihydrotestosterone and 17B-estradiol, via the 5alpha-reductase and aromatase enzymes, respectively. Thus the metabolism of 17B-TBOH provides a basis for future research evaluating its safety and efficacy as a means of combat- ing muscle and bone wasting conditions, obesity, and/or androgen insensitivity syndromes in humans, similar to that of other SARMs which are currently in development.
A lot of good stuff in there. Nice post
Pretty convinced y'all are getting trolled. 4 mcdoubles, tren only first cycle, pockets stuffed with chicken, a pound a day, lol idk smells like a good troll
Do you know anything about what tren does to the food you eat ? No obviously not . Do you know what it does to your digestive system. No! Troll huh that's funny coming from someone who comments and don't even have a self pic! Define troll for me please. I'm living proof of the benefits from tren if you use it correctly and eat enough. I started out @ I started my cycle on February 17 I was around 158 I'm sitting at 181 today so yes once the tren kicks in a pound a day is not uncommon. Stay off my thread bro your the troll!!
First off, having a "self" pic doesn't mean anything. You could have posted a pic of some random dude yourself. Secondly, you've given some pretty poor advice that makes what you've stated seem pretty unbelievable. And don't think for a second that I'm inexperienced with tren. I've ran it numerous times and am well aware of the pros and cons. Just do more research before you post things like this again.
Okay bro I've read over all my posts and I never directly gave advice to anyone. All my pics are of me. Ya i found a guy with the exact same tatoos as i have lol, come on brother.I don't get in other people's business so why are you? Ya it's a open thread and I was just updating swolepatrole. So what your saying is that I don't know what I'm doing. Well my gaines say otherwise. Ya ive put on about 25 lbs again and i still have a couple of weeks left on my cycle so i guess im lying again huh? Seems to me that some guys just dont want to believe it. Ive done plenty of research and just because I don't mention pct in my thread don't mean anything. I got my pct ready to go when the time comes. This is the only thread ive started about gear. I took the bashes and learned from it. Just because you have more karma on this site and are a higher level does that make you better?? No just means you've been here longer. I respect people's opinions and welcome them but I will defend myself always. I don't lay down and if cost me karma so be it.
Good for you. You completely missed my point and talking about the gains you can make while consuming big macs is just rediculous to those who take diet and health serious. You're running a compound that can ruin your life if you let it get out of hand, yet you're sitting here touting it as some magic elixir that will put giant mass on you regardless of the diet and exercise program you follow. That's false and a poor statement to make.
Bro that was more than 5 years ago. I wake up everyday I put 2 cups of 2% milk in the blender with 2 raw eggs I put two scoops of peanut butter and a scoop of eas soy protein and drink that. I then eat about for boiled eggs. Around lunch I usually eat a huge turkey sandwich and repeat with the protein shake and boiled eggs. Honestly after I workout within 45 minutes I drink another shake and eat beans and rice along with whatever my girl makes me for dinner which is always pretty healthy. At night before bed drink another shake and have a couple more boiled eggs. Due to the night sweats and insomnia Ill eat anything I can get my hands when i wake up with sweat rolling down my chest so I have it in my mind replenish, replenish,replenish!! Don't get me wrong i find it crazy the weight I put on so I've scheduled a doctors appointment because something has gotta give. I need an explanation myself. Like I said in the email bro I have no hard feelings towards you or anyone else that has given me a hard time. I probably would to.
Take some deep breaths. You come in guns blazing all the time.
Suck it lol. I'm just kidding. I'm not fired up or anything. Just overstating the obvious I suppose.
Moving this to Steroids section
Cmo,I hope you decide to stay here and learn.Not everyone is going to yell at you.Some people just get a little excited.You definitely were given bad advice and it would behove you to stick around and learn all you can.
hey brotha...your new so let me help to break it down for you... the reason everyone is on the rampage is bc your post doesnt exactly follow any general rule of thumb around here. it kinda promotes irresponsibility (whether that was your intention or not). no reason you should be saying run tren, eat everything and thats all there is to it. you made no mention of ai,prolactin control,hcg(19-nor shutdown), bp monitoring, lipid levels etc. someone is going to come in here new not knowing what the fuck is going on, read this, run it, and risk the possibility of having fd up levels for the rest of their life or multiple other problems that could arise from being unprepared, it just not what we do around here. in addition, imo it sounds a bit far fetched to gain 35 lbs in 5 weeks with 3-4 hours in the gym a week...even with the feed efficiency of tren. so bottom line is slow down a bit and promote so sensible behavior
well put
cmo...if u have any ?s feel free to send a fr
SwolePatrole7Spoken like a true gentleman with professional knowledge, thats probably how i should have gotten my statement out there. Sorry i was rude but what this guy said is all i was trying to get through, good shit levelup.
Okay so it's been 37 days since I started this thread. Ill admit that some of that information shouldn't have bee given out because of new guys. Bro I was around 150 at the end of January. I'm sittin @ 180.2 right now. I just want to thank you for your motivation.
all good swole, took me a while to learn but addressing people like that isnt going to get anywhere, if he was trolling then eat em up but i dont think he was/is so looks like omnom is schooling him a bit now
My rule of thumb with trolls is if you get pissed off your feeding the troll.. if your nice then that's just boring and they will leave
thats a good perspective, i tend to hate when people waste time so i think its warranted to get pissed off but thats just my view. i see you are helping him out and he seems to respond to you, +1 for taking care of the situation. i just wanted to come on and show him that he is welcome here but hes gotta follow somewhat close to the protocol.
Yeah I feel the same way
scootertrampHahaha!
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/when-trolls-attack
Ok....
I got a snake man. One time I fed it some beer. It was slithering this way and that. It was all fucked up.
Take the advice of the bros below. No body is here to sabotage anyone, just keep everyone safe and healthy. Test and tren can be the best combo you'll ever put in your body. It can also kill your ass dead. Be smart, read, learn, and grow both physically and mentally. I just felt like talking about my snake by the way.
So my bad I took advice from a friend that I trusted that was in great shape. Obviously he got me off track but like I said it got me big. I done test before that but never a whole cycle. I took what I could get and got overcharged badly. I know now he just wanted my money. But I swear on my dead brothers grave it worked and I gained around 30. It may have not been safe or healthy but how was I to know any different. That dude even taught me how to make it. You could have asked more questions about my experience before jumping down my throat. Isn't what this is about?? And for the dude that said I was an idiot. My I.Q. Is around 130. Do you even know what IQ means...? Don't google it lol
I took the advice of my athletic trainer at a major D1 college and ran deca only cycles. I was shut down by age 24. TRT for life now. This is the only place for real answers. Not your bromos at the gym.
Fuuuccckk. I'm sorry bro. Did you post about this story anywhere else? I'm curious about how this went down.
Here's the link to the post I made. It was wild for a while, but life is amazing now. Couldn't be happier.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/importance-of-giving-an....
The secret that I found with tren is that if you workout more than a hour it's counter productive because it also cuts fat so 45-60 is a good time to be in the gym on tren. The trick to tren is being lazy especially when you have a hard time putting on weight. So instead of giving advice you guys have called names and shown the kinda people you are . That was a long time ago and it worked for me . I got so big that people knew I was on something. I even started making my own for a while and still had killer results. I was a kid then. Since then Im just getting back to start working out. The cycle I got ordered is sust 500 some deca 300 and tren e( never used tren e) but thanks guys. Warm welcome
SwolePatrole7OMFG! Deca+tren+be lazy = key to bodybuilding champion, i had no idea, thats what im gonna do next cycle, thanks for sweet advice broski. Cant wait to have bitch tits that shoot out milk and a weiner that dont work because you have no caber/prami listed, no AI listed, no pct listed, i was done bashing you, just when i thought your post couldnt get any worse, you go and post this, if im so wrong for bashing this guy then i guess maybe im just a mcasshole but this is the WORST ideas ive ever heard all from one guy all in one post!
Go read about trenbolone if you can sit still that long. Your swole with water
SwolePatrole7Dude im not doing tren or deca for another 10+ years, 19-nor compounds arent something to take just cuz u wanna get big, obviously you are the one who needs to do reading on tren, that shit is harsh and is hard to recover from.
SwolePatrole7I dont retain water, i take my AI, you dont know what that is though cuz u havent mentioned it yet, and i have low carb and low sodium diet, i never retain water unless i run dbol.
Once again you can't read. I didn't say deca tren and be lazy. God you got some serious add
SwolePatrole7You said "secret with tren is be lazy" then you said "i ordered deca, tren, and sus for next cycle" how can i not read?
I told you about being lazy on tren. Not a stacked cycle
scootertrampI d suggest sticking to just testosterone. Before you hurt yourself.
Big no no to the deca and tren at the same time. To put it mildly that will have you lactating. Deca and tren are 19nor steroids that will cause you to lactate.. Not a great idea to run them both together at once.. I'm I would start with test for your first cycle in a long time then the 2nd cycle and a new compound.. Like you said you haven't done this in a while and it'd be best to ease into this. And again NO tren and deca at the same time. I'm telling you this for your own good
See man now tha helped me. I was thinking of running the sust and deca then adding the tren and stopping the deca. What is the best way??
testosterone in high amounts converts to estrogen.. to make good gains and not get bloat you run an AI like exemstane or adex with it.. When your done with your cycle you want to run a 4 week PCT - post cycle therapy to recover your natural testosterone and not grow tits.. Those are the basics.. You'd wanna use HCG to keep your nuts from shrinking during cycle but thats optional unless its an advanced cycle
If you were doing NPP and tren Ace maybe.. but deca lingers in your system for far to long.. Deca is notorious for making recovery difficult because it sits around in your body months later after the last injection.. I would say do test only to ease in.. then hit up your 2nd compound later... If you just can't wait and you have to use a 2nd compound this cycle.. I would say pick one or the other but don't use both
k now i dont know if ur trolling or being serious... tren is not a good choice for first time users.. and u just said if u workout more..its counter productive...
It is when tren makes you cut and your trying to get big. It's a lean mass builder!!
I apologize on be half of my friend xvbeast.. I ll help u out buddy.. taking tren only is bad because tren is very suppressive.. also tren is not a good choice for people who are new to AAS because of it mental and physical effects. I think 90% of all newbs dont know how to use it to its full potential. AAS shouldnt be used unless the person is at the max or peak of their training ,diet , genetic. infact u could of achieved ur results with just a test only cycle , if u trained harder and had good nutrition. and thats what Xvbeast by bottle fishing.. meaning u took the easy way out. if u gunna run another cycle , run a test only cycle until u get ur training and diet in check
scootertrampThis guy came here not knowing what he's doing. So how bout instead of marking down points, someone with sensible BRAINS just school him. Calling dude names won't solve anything and he'll just split and never learn.
Smh!
Lets start with, do you use AI's, prolactin inhibitors, or PCT? Just wanna get an idea of what you know.. Those are the essentials.. If you haven't caught on, tren is a taboo word here.. especially if used in the same sentence with mcdonalds LOL
Gosh sorry I didn't know. It worked for me and I just wanted to hear other people's opinion. That's what got me big. I wasn't saying hey new guys go do some tren
Yes tren is great but it has a lot of sides and has put a lot of people on TRT for the rest of their lives.. But there's ways to avoid that if you do a lot of research.. I tend to ignore gym rats.. I know you did not mean to tell new guys to do this but what the others are worried about is if they see this page and do it as a first cycle
Its fairly obvious that he doesn't know what he's doing. At least try to help him out first. If he isn't receptive then I could see all the back n forth but lets represent eroids a little better than this. We will always have new guys who are off in their posts. Much better to try and explain why they are making mistakes instead of calling them idiots! C'mon guys. You are better than this.