posted Tue, 02/04/2014 - 11:44
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Back in the day Test Suspension was considered the ultimate mass builder. And it was even though you had to use a blow dart to inject it daily. I never hear about TNE being used as a mass builder but instead as a pre workout.
Aren't they the same thing? Curious as to why TNE isn't talked about as a mass builder.
Thanks.
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Wow, this answered a lot of questions. Very good info here. Thanks for the details on the in's and out's of this as a base, V. Definitely for a dedicated, advanced and well-funded user.
Alright kids. VIKING spoke and we just learn something new today... This is why i love this comunity, free PRO advice, can't get better than this
You will not see or hear many TNE protocols on eroids because it is not a bona-fidi BBer site!...... biggest percentage of folks on here are recreational AAS users so no need for daily multi-pin protocols.... i could spend hours writing about the superb effects from proper use of TNE but it would fall on dead ears or be abused so best to stay tight lipped..... i only talk PRO- cycles with fellow MODS for reasons given.
Bet you wished you never askedhuh..... need big balls to run this stuff properly!... are you man enough for some bad pin soreness lol
BigBmajYeah but when people read what you just wrote I'll bet they think "vike likes that TNE stuff a lot, I had better use it". So they will take 100 mg a day for preworkout, not factoring in total mg of test per week, etc. so by not providing any information, people are erring on the side of fucking themselves up. It's already being abused, because good info isn't available on google very often. So they read something some pro wrote 4 years ago.
I've gone back and forth on this issue myself.
100mg pr day wont do nothing bro.... ultimate results are made by pinning 100mg 4 x daily...... ok now you heard from me............. TNE is the ultimate bulking form of test... 4 x ED pinning for a min 12/14 run................ never use pre.comp like some say due to massive water retention and other bad sides .
P.S... NEVER add up any short ester MGs to your weekly MG total as you are using thses MGs up by the hour.
I added u.
Id like to talk to you about this more.
I can show u picks as well so you can see I'm a serious builder, not a recreational user.
My test base for bulking is normally 200mg a day pf test prop, or should i say 160 due to ester. And 100mg tne per day.
Id like to try this 4x day tne thing but would like some advice about the prop. Am I replacing?
pm please. I'm glad u dont post certain things here.
Yeah i see that FR brother........... i have a good idea of what you are about, and yes i will share with you no problem....... prepare for a hell of a ride lol..... this one is all about total focus and money unfortunately but hey! this is the one that will yield more lbs pr $ than any other test based run.
Well I probably won't do 100mg four times lol.
I'm just interested in the mechanisms and such.
this might sound extreme and it is. but guys are blasting tren and Anadrol like candy these days.
If I were to ever to do this, I probably wouldn't stack
much else. Maybe gh.
As far as lbs, I'm sure u mean water to?
I'm wondering how it would be more muscle beneficial than say prop at same dosage (accounting for amount u get from estered test)
my Ai has got to be key with tne. It quickly causes gyno I've seen.
Tne is cheap for me.
Being a builder isnt recreational for me.
if I decide maybe a log.
I say this with no hint of shame: I am not man enough for 4 pins a day for 12-14 weeks! That being said, I appreciate you sharing this Vike and your knowledge never ceases to amaze me. +1
ZewiAnabolXthe good old--6am-10am-2pm-6pm
BigBmajSee I've been doing this for awhile and I still had no fucking clue. Thanks.
I was using 50-100 mg just before a heavy lift day. See I was just wasting the stuff. But that's what I had read here, just read to factor in the total thing last week I think. See ignorance spreads fast as hell.
I'm glad I learned something new today. Thanks.
4x a day for 12-14 days or weeks?
Sorry!.... i missed that... its weeks bro 12/14 week cycle, use it with anadrol or d/bol cycled 2wks on 2wks off throughout the cycle and watch your weight blast on,,, add a 19 like deca and you have the perfect synergy of test/DHT/nandrolone.......... classic bulking stack right there.
100 mg 4x a day for 3 months is dedication. I will have to try that some day. That's a lot of pinning.
Can the 19 be a long acting ester?
With a 12wk run yes deca is alright... shorter runs i would suggest hitting NPP (short ester deca) for max results..... do not worry about the long oral run , with good liver support in place you will be fine 100mg of either abombs or d/bol ED.... split these up and even take through the night to take advantage of crucial half-lifes..... same with TNE dont forget there are 24hrs in a day so use every hour wisely to fully utilise the potency of each compound......... this is highly advanced and needs serious focus and self-disipline to undertake a cycle like this correctly........... defo NOT for the lazy or weak minded amongst us.
ZewiAnabolX"there are 24hrs in a day so use every hour wisely"
Simply the best advice period
You realize that's 336 mL of TNE over 12 weeks. Extremely expensive cycle. I has to be the best cycle ever!
Of course i realise lol.... this is REAL use of compounds not the usual COOKIE CUTTER shit we see splattered all over these boards!..... i wasnt keen on laying out this cycle but after thinking about it last night i dont really see that this will be abused by our numb headed youngsters due to the expense for 1 reason but most importantly NONE of them have the motivation or focus to attack a daily multi-pin protocol for the length of cycle advertised.
Finally i didnt let rip with a balls to the wall trenbolone cycle that would make fuckers eyes bleed and probably be the last thing i ever wrote on eroids before being banished forever lol.
Lol. I thought about what an effective Tren base cycle would look like last night. I love Tren but that would be horrible!
solid info, i don't plan on using it anytime soon, this cycle can really be a PAIN in the ass.. lmfao... +1 thanks for sharing bro
I'm not a pro BB but I'm considered an Elite Powerlifter. I need to gain a solid 20 lbs to better fill out my weight class.
Test Suspension & TNE(Test No Ester) is the same thing... It means you get whatever mg of Test is advertise on the vial... Reason why i dont think is a mass builder is because it reaches its peak within hours and leaves the system as quick as it got in it... unlike Test Enanthate which stays in the blood for a long period of time allowing steady muscle growth... Someone correct me if im wrong!!!
Bro, TNE (oil base) and Test Suspension (water base) can actually be used as a base. Now, the pinning schedule becomes, mmm, "interesting." U must think I'm nuts? Why would I lie . . . . ? If u are dying of curiosity (not that u are) - I like the following link - more than most people care to know . . .
http://www.steroid.com/Testosterone-Suspension.php#
you are correct.. but however I have used TNE 2x a day once before the gym then eat and later on in the day after I have ate a big meal with a large protein intake to help with protein synth. but its general not used as a mass builder unless you plan on pinning it 4 times a day to keep blood levels stable