-3 Thinking next cycle, get on that dry bulk!
Hey guys so first off little bit of info , 28 years old, 5'9, currently 195lbs, 14% BF. I have Done about 4 cycles, first 2 were 4-6 years ago, test only cycles. 3 years ago did a test E and dbol cycle then after that I hadn't ran any gear for years until recently. Janurary of this year I started a Test E and low dose of Tren A cycle and it went well.
Week 1-16 test e 500mg per week
Week1-10 Tren A 200mg per week
Used .5mg arimidex from start to finish and now running clomid and nolva for my post.
Going to take about 4 months off and get bloods done before, in the mean time trim some fat off with diet. After that I want to do a bulk or mass focused cycle. I have been tossing around about 3 different variations for a somewhat dry bulk and can't decide which one, maybe you guys can Help.
Option 1: test E and EQ
Week 1-16 test E 500mg/wk
Week 1-16 Eq 600mg/wk
Option 2: Test E, EQ, anavar or Tbol
Week 1-16 test e 500mg/wk
Week 1-16 EQ 600mg/wk
Week1-4/6 anavar/Tbol 50mg ED
Option 3: test E, EQ, tren e
Week 1-16 test e 500mg/wk
Week 1-10 tren e 400mg/wk
Week 1-16 EQ 600mg/wk
Will be taking .5mg arimidex EOD
PCT will be clomid 100/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Goal for this cycle will be to put on more muscle without to much water rentention. Will be consuming proper macros to help with the bulk. Any input or thoughts will be appreciated
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I just ran D4net rip blend and eq with anavar and t5 for a clean dry bulk. Hardly any water retention but I had sphinx proviron on standby in case I started to balloon. Anti ai must be run in my opinion to reduce water retention and I run nolva/tamifex everyday too.
Winstrol is also good for lean dry muscle mass but it drys the joints out, so I sometimes throw a bit of decca in.
RustyhookerOBVIOUS TROLL...-2
backonroidsWhat's this dumb and dumber show ? ??
Two posts about he same shit mentioning names - against the rules!
Also, your stats are fucked bro. Fix them and clean up your posts. Also stop advising on gear when the board has already established guidelines for the safety of the OP.
I read your wall of text, I read all your responses, I read others as well.
Here is some real talk for you.
Drop the cycle plans. Look in the mirror. Make up your mind what and where you want to be. In the past 6 years you have been all over the place.
If I was you at this point I would erase the chalkboard and take then next 6 months to a year and train and get my diet/food plan dialed in. Noone ever says what their goals are and if they do its either get bigger or get cut so fkn vague. First and foremost you need to find out what type of muscle you have, you need to try different routines for a month at a time and see if its working, if not try something else for a month and rinse repeat. This is not a godamn race and most people think it is. Quality muscle is earned not found in a needle.
Some of the best advice given to me on the boards -- everyone is different and has to see what works for them. This guy should definitely drop the gear and focus on diet and training and see what works best for him.
Well said bro thank you for your wise advice
RustyhookerYour approach to gear is garbage. You've proven that both above and your replies below.
Research your foods big time. Then do a simple first cycle which is clearly written in Groups.
backonroidsX2
Fuck yes!!!
RustyhookerHe's lean now so its all good gains with a lil sweat.
That meal wasn't by my design but by a coach I was paying for
Honestly dude? A show AND a coach?? Jesus
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RustyhookerYou being defensive or just not reading. I believe i stated to research a proper meal.
Not give more excuses. Your gain or your loss. You choose
Fully understood what you said. The guy below asked to post my meal plan while was in cycle, i know hay diet isn't Ideal even thought I was in contest prep. That coach was fired. My meals look nothing like that right now. Thanks for your advise
RustyhookerGuessing bikini contest? If you're leaned out now, you've got time to rethink your approach. And achieve better mass with less hard cutting.
Good luck sir
Lol yep bikini. With that diet that's how I would've become, a bikini contestant. Yea I dropped the show date until later this year, that diet killed me and it wasn't working anymore. Dude cut my carbs/ cals and started lots of cardio way to soon. 6 weeks worked great then boom plateau. And he just kept cutting more carbs and adding more cardio and it wasn't doing anything anymore
RustyhookerUse magnifying glass up top. Find makwa and check his forums. Medex too. General forums is a ton of food posts on forum by catalyst.
Theres a nice chunk of guys competing here with posts.
Welcome to eroids!
Jesus really I'm just laughing right now ur not that goood at math r u
you've been 220 with 23% bf then lost 9% bf that'd make you 200 lbs!
SO YOU'VE LOST 5 POUNDS OF MUSLCE WHILE BEEING 4 MONTHS ON TRENBOLONE AND TESTOSTERONE, YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME? I don't know if your just training stupid and eating garbage or you lying to everybody here whatever go some other place
BF was tested with the cheesy handheld machine so they are not 100% accurate but a good idea of where I started and ended. Being a bad ass on the internet or in real life doesn't get anyone anywhere. Giving advice in a positive way more constructive
Way will always be better!
Not trying to be a bad ass here. I actually already wrote an answer concerning eq and when to stop it, then I thought about the figures u mentioned and couldn't help it. You need absolutely no advice about the usage of gear bc u did everything obviously so wrong u need to think everything over again
All I did was listen to what the coach told me to run and what to eat.
Rustyhooker9% = 9lbs per 100. 19.8 lbs to be correct here.
His diet does need help though.
I know but I rounded up the figure, next time I'll be more precise. So more 0.2 lbs of muscle he lost
You just came off your 4th cycle and only weigh 195? Instead of putting all your focus on the gear, it sounds like you should focus more on your diet. Do you even know your TDEE?
I'm going to give it to you straight, you're not going to get any advice for your next cycle. Drop the gear and focus more on your diet. Talk to guys like Makwa and Irish . . . They might give you some good advice on how to increase size through proper nutrition. They have already helped me.
TDEE is right around 3000 cal. The diet I listed is not my current meal plan. This was when I was on the tren cycle and the coach I was paying for advise me the cycle and the meal plan. 10 weeks into it, that coach was fired. I realized that meal plan was crap
You're going to get "real talk" on this site so try not to get defensive. While many people may be abrasive, your well-being is their top priority.
I think you're moving too fast with your cycles and quickly getting in over your head. If you're sitting at 195 and that's AFTER running tren, then you're running harsh drugs that aren't needed. I would advise you make a new post and lay out your diet and routine. I'm willing to bet something is off, or your body could have done some growing without tren, probably steroids all together, at this point.
Also - taking 4 months off after a 4 month cycle that included tren is not nearly enough downtime. If you keep heading in the direction you're going, your body is going to get damaged.
backonroids^Ledgend right here ^^^
Always true words broo +
You speak the truth! Hopefully he follows your advice.
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Well I was 220lbs and 23% BF before this tren cycle.
Diet consisted of:
Meal 1: 6 egg whites, 6 spears of asparagus
Meal 2: 6oz lean ground turkey, asparagus, 1/2 cup of rice
Meal 3: 6oz tilapia or chicken, asparagus, 1/2 cup rice, 1tbsp almond butter
Meal 4: 6oz tilapia, asparagus
Meal 5: 6 oz tilapia, asparagus
Meal 6: 1.5 scoop of whey isolate protein or 6 egg whites and spinach.
This was pretty much my meal plan every day besides minor variations of carbs and veggies and 1-2 cheat meals a week.
As far as 4 month break, I kinda I'd figured I would
Need more time but will definitely get blood work done before moving forward with a cycle.
Why would you start a cycle at 23% body fat? Also, I would starve on the diet you listed.
Because the coach I was paying for for contest prep advised me too, and yea I was starving. That's the meal plan I was given by him
SO you started this account today and you cant remember how old you are. I call bullshit get lost
Pardon me? I said I'm 28. And yes I have been lurking for a bit now but never made an account. Finally decided to do so. But after being told to get lost maybe I shouldn't have :(
So yesterday your stats said you were 27 and 5ft 8in. Today I see it says 28 and 5ft 8in. Your post says your 28 and 5ft 9in. I found it very odd that you would list both your age and height differently.Lots of kids lie about age to get cycle advice. Usually members are quick to pick up on that. I would be willing to offer a wee bit of help but I see this thread quickly went down hill.