posted Fri, 09/20/2013 - 19:29
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ok so if you want better concentrations of any type of fat soluble substance when administering into the Muscle the best spot is the Glutes then 2nd the Vastus lateralis. Its due to the great number of Lymphatic vessels located in these area, compared to the delt and pec where there is less
I know People love injecting the delts and pecs but its not efficient and your not absorbing it
heres the proof
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9103484/
that picture corresponds to that study if you see the full text article
So not saying the Pec and Delt injection don't work Im saying its wiser to inject Gluteal and vastus lateralis
Props to OmNom and J223 for educated me on new sites for injecting will rotate more sites
There are other places as well with alots of lymph vessals
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Anonoh hmm I used this graph in my deca write up
Knowing J and omnom, I'm pretty sure the last thing they expected here was for you to grab pieces of info from them and go jump off the deep end. Even tho that's sort of the pattern for you.
You're overly complicating how you're going about your cycles bro. It's only your second one and you're already toying with 19's. Your overall behavioral process has you in the mindset that it's all about the gear and more is better. You don't need tons of gear, numerous compounds, or to stick a needle in every tissue of your body. You need a basic understanding of basic compounds paired with some self control. Keep it simple dude.
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Anonwith site rotations and the fact that no one does 1 shot every 10 days, let alone monthly I don't think anything you're arguing below is valid. It doesn't matter the gluteal absorption rate if the chemical comp is too high and you swell up and it feels like you're sitting on a golfball. hit the glute again based on your "absorption rate chart" and you'll get a nice infection. You're missing the personal experience you're preaching to everyone bud..
Am I the only one that sees two different esters on that graph? Two different esters, 2 different spots, 4 different injections, and two different amounts.
PP: 4ml in glute
Deca:
- 4ml glute
- 1ml glute
- 1ml delt
Pretty common sense that an area with greater circulatory vessels will contribute to an increased rate of absorption. Actually, I'm surprised as fuk that the kid at least got the mode of absorption right (lymphatic). But being a med student having just completed lharmacology, I'd think he'd understand how the ester plays a role in these hormones becoming active. No matter how fast it's absorbed, you're still at the mercy of the paired ester.
But let me ask you this OP - and I have a feeling I'm gonna regret even coming to another one of your posts - if pinning the delt doesn't allow for optimum absorption, what do you propose happens with the fluids being injected? They don't just dwell in the interstitial spaces. That would cause infection and possibly cellulitis. All interstitial fluids are absorbed via the lymphatic system.
Rotate your pin sites or you're going to have some nasty ass knots.. and they do not just go away after a week.. Also pinning through scar tissue is extra painful and even more annoying to push the needle through so I don't think it's worth only having 4 places to pin.
Cocopuffbrb pinning my asshole cause it has the most lymph nodes
That made me pucker my ass lmfao
When you get a knot in your ass the size of a tennis ball I bet you will reconsider injecting glutes and lats only.
you do realize they used the fast ester with the glute injection right? the difference when used with same ester is actually not that drastic.
Ignore this post. Yes some places absorb better than others but site rotation is more important so don't only inject glutes
Cocopuffthis foo looks like hes been in the gym a goddamn month and already has ran all sorts of cycles holy f*ck my brains gonna explode.
He was trying to be helpful which I think is great.. so lets at least take that for what it is and correct him if needed.. Attacking his physique does nothing to help any one here
AnonLesson learn will rotate more sites
Bicep and calves look awsome they are filled with lymph vessals
+1
I'm one of the delt pinners =] I love the fullness it adds to them especially when they're pumped
it's not like that man remember eroids is not about insulting the appearance of other members just something to keep in mind we are here to help bros out
Cocopufftrue, but with him running around yapping about how shit should be done you'd expect him to have his own shit down.
AnonIgnore the NPP-Look at the black circle and black square in the Decanates ester key yes the difference isnt big but there is a significant differeance
And like i said before the other site work as well
I rotate both legs and both cheeks
Cocopuffthe difference isn't big but there is a significant difference, the FUCK LOL.
ALL THE SHIT GETS ABSORBED HOMEBOY, just at different rates -_-
I hit each of my biceps in 3 different spots - 6 locations
I hit each tricep in 2 different spots - 4 sites
I hit each lat in 3 different spots - 6 sites
I hit each delt in 1 single spot - 2 sites
I hit each pec in 4 different spots - 8 sites
I hit each glute in 3 different spots - 6 sites
I hit each quad in 8 different spots - 16 sites
I hit each calve in 2 different spots - 4 sites
I hit each ventroglute in 1 single spot - 2 sites
total sites - 54
there is no reason to only hit quads and glutes. site rotation is important!!! You will find out if you ever do a short ester steroid with daily injections...
AnonDid calv today it has its thickness needle had difficulting penetrating but it didnt hurt at all i did go desp at all maybe 1/8 no bleeding no oil back flow. Thanx for your advice
AnonGod dam impressive
I will take that into account
And lookin at this diagram the bicep is full with lypm vessals
Dam so is the calves
From now on I will do it
+1
Crash dummy... Smh
careful with calves though that's a pretty dense muscle group. Also has a good amount of nerve endings. Well the quads do too, legs in general have lots of nerves you got to watch out for but with experience you will learn which spots are good and which aren't
AnonIll look at nerve diagram to get an idea
And inject maybe a lil over 1/4 inch
Ill try it on Tuesday
Im fuckin Clen insomia right now
Peace gita sleep
Cocopufflet him inject until his booty is swolled up
if he only injects glute then he's going to have so much scar tissue formed that NONE of it will get absorbed and the risk for abscess is highly increased
Anona lot of lymphs in the booty
CocopuffI hope this is a joke.
AnonDude the studies are there
it makes perfect sense as for your anatomy of your lymph vessels are in greater numbers in your gluteal
did you read the links?
Cocopuffdid YOU read the links.
You don't even know how to read a graph ffs.
Anondouble check the graph homie
compare 1ml vs 1ml of decanate ester
CocopuffK dense head, let me explain the graph to you.
The graph shows the plasma levels after each injection and the speed of absorption. I don't even know wtf you mean by "1ml vs 1ml of decanate ester" .
Now, compare the glute vs the deltoid with a decaonate ester. Okay so the glutes show a faster and higher absorption rate at the beginning. Slowly it drops below the delt shot. Now where in the fuck does it show the absorption stopping? aka your "yes your peeing or pupping or even spiting it out by the sebum glands at least some of it not all." The graph is still showing continued absorption even after 30 days of the shot. You're giving people false ass info saying it is "wasted".
IT IS ALL USED. There is no "peeing or pupping or spiting out".
Anonif in the first 10 days it didn't reach the same levels as the other one meaning it wasn't absorbed when blood test was done
AnonYes they tie up at day 10.
but those 1st 10days make a big difference in nitrogen retention and protein synthesis
CocopuffDude this is 1 shot -_- who on these damn forums is gonna do 1 shot of prop every 30 days. Let alone every 10 days. And these lame studies were performed in 1980s
Anonyour thinking so closed minded man If one shot had these results so would the other injections after except levels will be higher due to overlapping half lives
CocopuffK holmes have it your way, looking at your pics you shouldn't even be touching goddamn roids.