Test 600/EQ 400 MMA Fighter insomnia
I've been running test/EQ for about 12 weeks I was using it to get ready for a mma fight and I felt great. So good to the point that I worked only on power lifting and actual mma training. During that time my cardio was insane. But recently insomnia and night started to develop some really bad insomnia that's gotten worse and worse.personally I think it's from the eq. I started at just test e/prop when the cycle began. Eventually threw in mast/tbol stacked with the test and I felt great (With the exception of my forearms burning to death during gi jiu-jitsu) when I first added the eq, the first 4 weeks were awsome I stopped training cardio since I didn't need to the eq skyrocketed my cardio numbers. Now I just got terrible insomnia and night sweats anyone else experience this? I'm switching to just test e 500 see how it works
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BjjBRAnd another thing too that needs explaining. I know a ton of brazilians and European guys that are on year round taking breaks when occasionally but never really run a pct. These guys typically have much less problems from aas than what I usually here from americans. The "cycling" process seems pretty harsh on your system. I read that each time you put yourself in shutdown, it takes longer to come back from. It would make sense to go on fir longer periods with that in mind
You are still ignorant to people trying to help you out; so I am going to show you your future my young friend and take a close look. It will be the last thing you saw.
Cool pic man!
I almost got caught taking it too, luckily I escaped before Vike woke up or it would have crushed my skull too.
Oooooh i likey that..................... Lets see whos head it lands on in this thread........... BETS ARE ON!
Give us more warning next time; it landed so hard I lost the internet for about 5 minutes lol.
Thats not a big enough hammer for vike got one super sized lol
I had to reduce the size of it for the picture; otherwise if I posted the real size it would have crashed the entire internet.
I think you are confused bud, while some of what you say is true the point of cycling on and off is so that you retain some level of natural function does it get ever less each time you cycle...probably but that's also been accredited to the fact that after 25 your test levels are on a slow decline so even if you take a 25 yr olds test levels and test at 30 and 35 each one will be less...you stay on for yrs at a time and come off and you're levels will most certainly be lower then a guy who cycled on and off for the same period of time...make sense?
BjjBRMakes sense. But I feel like we are all talking on a bro science level. I wish they would do more research on more of all of this so things are more clear
You are definitely not 25. If you were you would have stopped typing 30 minutes ago. Keep it up..
BjjBRBesides research papers that everyone is asking for do you want my birth certificate too lol
Anytime someone says they know "tons"of people doing anything they are lying. You are no different.
BjjBRNobody can get anything by you huh? Shucks I shoulda tried harder!!
help us if this is the next gene pool
BjjBRObviously the gene pool before mine wasn't that great either. I bet you my generation will do more good in the whole entire world than your generation ever did. Polluted oceans, dirty politicians, and ridiculously horrible leadership due to greed, collapsing economies. Yes rolltide3 your generation was just magnificent
BjjBRSounds "legit"
BjjBRAnd just so you guys know. José Conseco used test year round at 500mgs/wk besides being on trt he's in good health and looks ten years younger than he is. Can someone explain that?
RustyhookerAnother kiddie on trt? And doesn't know why?
Post your real stats! Your info up top makes no sence. Post cycle correctly!
1-4 bleh
1-12 bleh blah oil
Etc
BjjBRTest 600 mgs eq 400mgs/week. Start I g today I'm doing 500mgs/wk test I can't take the insomnia from my rbc's being so high
Can we get priors and are you running high mg gear? Also are you rotating injection sites? I'm curious to know if you're doing any pins into biceps? I'm not going to argue with you as I've read below but I have a few ideas if you'd kindly answer my questions I may be able to help
BjjBRI think what you said might be it.i was running a product that was 300mg test/200mg eq per mL I was doing 2 shots a week
It's hard to tell what is causing it with all the compounds that you were throwing in there. You sure what you got was EQ? Sounds like you've been on for a while. Recommendation: PCT and take some time off, but reading the comments below I don't for see you doing that.
I usually take sleeping pills the supplement kind I don't think I can give you the name of it but you can buy it at and supplement store it works for me other than that it is probably the EQ.
BjjBRI think so too man I don't like taking pills I stay away from traditional medicine as much as possible veggies and fruits are the closest thing I put in my body to medicine. (Except aas that is)
Stats and cycle history
Edit just looked u are 24 the best advice anyone can give u is stop this cycle immediately start pct asap. Then go get blood work done to see how well u bounced back. At your age u don't need steroids. U was running a cycle of Natty test till u decided to shut it down
BjjBRActually now I'm 25. And no my natty test was actually not that good when I started. My natty test was pretty bad from years of sparring and head trauma from football and sparring as a kid. The second I got on test I had similar experience to what a guy who goes on trt feels
Won't cosign trt just cause u say it makes u feel good. Every young guy comes here and says the same thing I have low test ugh lol how is this possible. Real advice u are having bad reactions to the cycle drop it and pct. What's the point if u are walking around like a zombie all day
BjjBRListen man I'm not a "bro" I don't take this to look good in front of a mirror. I'm fully aware of what the stuff can do y to you both short term and long term use. I use it because I almost have to for reasons that are almost impossible to cover on just a online post and you wouldn't get it anyways because I'm guessing your not involved in a sport like this. I was asking other members about there experience with eq and insomnia if they cross that path. And btw EQ had a tendency to cause lethargy/insomnia in some people its pretty common
You are obviously not all that serious about MMA. You realize you will never be in the UFC, right? By the time you (in a panic) try to clean up to try out (if you ever actually do) it will be too late, you will not recover and hence will get your ass kicked. Stop now or forget about a career in MMA
BjjBRLol at this comment. You obviously don't know anyone in the game. Sorry to break it to you but those guys are pinning the week of the fight. They test for test levels it's not a on/off test like maryjane
Lol u young guys are so funny always looking for shortcuts no matter what the consquenses
U are right I wouldn't get it bc I care about my health and just by your comments u are goin to fuck yourself up bc u want to well good luck doubt anyone will help u hurt yourself I gave u great advice u have been running 12 weeks and are having issues so stop the cycle and pct but that's right u just want someone to consign u to keep goin .
BjjBRYea and I'm gonna take advice from a guy that takes Aromasin+clomid+nolva for a simple cookie cutter cycle.
Lmfao that's pct there junior no where have I ever put that as a cycle lmfao
BjjBRObviously it's part of the using roids cycle. What do you take that cocktail of nonsense all year? You would of been better off with just nolva. Wicked ridiculous to take 3 pct/ai products for a basic cycle like test/mast maybe you should do some more research yourself before coming on here trying to give everyone advice and tell them what to do
You should stop MMA, you have obviously been hit in the head too many times. You aren't making sense.
You ask for help, but then try and come back with PCT knowledge when you obviously have no knowledge of aas to begin with, this is the 1st time I ever heard of EQ causing any of the symptoms you described. Also head injuries will have ZERO effect on test levels; unless you have a set of nuts for a head. I am starting to believe you are an MMA fighter; because I have friends who do it and they are cocky fuckers who know it all and never listen to advice. But I guarantee you they are all natty because they like to win from the heart and not look for shortcuts...kind of like what you are doing right now with your multi compound cycle. Take rolltide's advice and just get out of the aas game; you are obviously more knowledgeable then anyone; except the part where intelligence comes to play must have been knocked out of you. Don't ask for help if you can't accept the answers is basically what I am saying here..
BjjBRhttp://www.bjpenn.com/the-trt-debate-studies-show-repeated-head-trauma-r...
At least Google it next time before you talk smack
This is how much you would have had to take for low T; or is that you?
BjjBRWrong. Yet another baseless response
So is using webmd to diagnose yourself.
BjjBRAnnnnnnnnnd who said I did? Some people actually read real research papers instead of going on forums as there base of if there gonna use aas or not
Lmfao
I loved that skit on Family guy.
That's a great one lol
That is your "scientific study"? Lmao!
No worries about this guy..In the distance I hear a hammer dragging across the ground for him.
BjjBRNo, but I can pull up whatever anyone else is too lazy to find
Then you better come up with something better than a "pro-fighter TRT" piece, lol.
BjjBRWhy don't you Google it yourself I've obviously gone deep into the subject with the research I found that I apparently mistaking didn't bookmark so I could post it here.