sust injection schedule - protocall & dosage
what do you guys recommend for pinning sustanon?? i have read that it should be EOD (3x /wk) through the cycle because of the short esters. i have also read that after 3 weeks of EOD, you can drop down to E3D (2x /wk) because your levels are up by then and should maintain with two weekly injections. what do you guys suggest??
also, i know Sust is test....but is there any benefit at all to running a small weekly dosage of test E along with the sust? i am currently running test E 500mg/wk which is working well for me. however, my buddy is running some sust 250 from a source on here and he is absolutely blowing up AND leaning out like never before. i would like to give it a try on my next cycle this spring/summer. his suggestion to me is to pin 250mg sust & 125mg test E twice per week - for a total of 500mg sust & 250mg test E per week. would i be better off just pinning 750mg sust (250x3) per week and leave out the test E??
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Noticed nobody has asked for stats? age? cycle history, most importantly BF%......... WTF is going on bros, we have posts up re/stats which you all agree with then i see this Cmon guys one way or the other or we lock any more stat posts.
scootertrampSorry for the error
i posted my current cycle, height, weight, waist.....just didn't post age now that i look back, i'm 29yo. doesn't that cover everything?? not sure of my exact BF as i have not measured, i'll post a recent pic if i can
I was aiming the comment at the guys bro.. not you lol and thanks for giving that info
yea i know lol, but i also know proper etiquet here is to post stats so they shouldn't have to ask, my bad on that. thanks vike!
You got yourself a +3 for good attitude there brother
Thanks!! Lol...I'm tryin to rep up so I appreciate that!!
Sus250 is composed of 30mg proprionate, 60mg phenyproprionate, 60mg isocaproate, and 100mg decanoate. Ideally you would want to pin prop at least eod. However, there's no reason to go blasting 100mg of decanoate eod if you don't have to. The general protocol for sust is pinning at least e3d to get the most out of the various esters. You're not losing much in terms of prop mg's because it's such a low amount. Phenylprop has a half life of around 4 days or so, making e3d pinnings satisfactory.
so 1ml E3D sus250 would be a reasonable dose for me u think?? i'm 5'10" 179lb w/ 32" waist
Yeah wouldn't be bad at all. If you haven't used any prop or phenylprop before, be ready for some pip. May not happen to you, they don't bother me any. But some guys report being pretty sore from either of those two esters.
My boy using it now had never used prop or sust before and says this label is smooth, a lil PIP the first rotation but nothing crazy, I ain't scared lol. Not sure if I can mention labels here but it's from an eroids source, 25ml bottles
I inject once a week with sust it works perfect stable levels
what concentration of sust are you using? how many mg's per week?
doesn't matter. as long as it is the traditional ratio of short to long esters 30mg prop 60 phenylprop 60 iso 60 deca then you can do 250mg per week 500 750 whatever you want do it all on the same day.
This makes it stable and you will not notice a drop in test levels if you pin once a week
testosterone decanoate has a half life of 14 days. So if we inject by the 7th day which is when the decanoate peak ends. then you will not notice a drop in levels. The short esters prop phenylprop and isocap are mostly gone by the 7th day.
scootertrampI wouldn't use sust til a few cycles completed. Then, i did great with a simple frontload and once a week pinning. If your wanting prop, then add prop. Sust has so lil prop that multipins is a waste of time. Normal prop kicker for beginners(2nd cycle) is 100eod. Sust doesn't even come close. Its the long Esters of the sust that are the heavy hitters. Dont add test e to a sust cycle either. By molecular weight, theres MORE testosterone in test e than sust. Sust was created with very ling Esters to be successful on once a week pins for TRT people.
Why shouldn't u add test e with sust?
scootertrampI see no reason to add test e as far as long Esters go you are covered. I have seen a multi blend that switch out one long ester for enanthate but cycle wise, just raise your sust or stack if need be.
X2. I happen to be doing that now...