Strong PIP... advice?
I have read the sticky above about why PIP happens and how to over come it but damn am I having some problems with my new sources gear.
I am currently running 100mg test prop EOD and 800EQ/400TestE EW.
I have now pinned for about 2 weeks. Each and every time with out fail, I am getting PIP but not immediately. Usually 6-7 hours later. I mainly pin quads, ventro glute and lateral delts.
I have tried heating the oil in warm water, taking a shower after injection, massaging injection site, using a heating pad and using muscle post injection but nothing seems to stop this PIP. Im not injecting large amounts anywhere... 1ml in delts and 2 ml in legs. When I pinned 100mg of test prop in my delt, I had a large mound under the skin and it was warm to touch for a day. It was sore as hell for 3 days after. I know I didn't inject wrong and I didnt move or move the needle so idk what the issue is.
I am using 23g 1'' needles
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I hope your not massaging the injection site after you pin. That would make it worse the hormone will unattached from the Esther and cause crystallization. Try taking a hot shower before you pin and letting the alchol dry before you pin. Take a baby asprin.
Yeah dude I usually like to heat my oil and take a shower before hand..take a hot one for about ten minutes. Seems to work like a charm! I was on some test prop and I was experiencing some pip and all this really helped! Best of luck mate!
Ive been doing that and nothing... I posted earlier that cutting it w EQ made a huge difference but i jumped the gun... Cant walk now
Update: cut 100mg/prop w 300mg/Eq for a total of 2ml in my left ventro glute... No pip or issues. A little sore but ill take it compared to what i had before. Thank u bros for the help
Thought i was in the clear and injected yesterday, was completely fine until today. I injected the left outside of my left quad... Everything was great and now it kills right above my knee. The tendon feels swollen and i cant bend my leg... Its so far from the inject site but i have no clue what else this could be from. Injected test e in right quad today and feel amazing so apparently im no good w this prop
Are you pinning deep enough? You may need a 21 guage 1.5 inch syringe, and pin your glutes.
Idk if i want to touch a 21 but im certain im in deep enough. Especially in my delts
some ppl are just more sensitive ti PIP than other s bro... you could cut with your longs to get you through the kick i.e.
M 200 test e/100 prop
W 400 eq/100 prop
F 200 test e/100 prop
Su 400 eq/100 prop
...and so on
.... and quads are NOT the ideal prop site bro
i get what your saying, thanks bro. Whats ideal for prop then? My delts dont respond well to any injection and they usually swell up at the site. Shoudl I stick to glutes?
lotsa factors bro, oil used, BA% or just plain ol fashioned you are one of the lucky ones who gets crippled LOL! Not saying you can't stick to the glutes to run the kick out but you will probably get pretty knotted (site rotation is a GOOD thing)
Is it just the prop that nails your delts or do the longer esters do it too?
It sucks cuz im limpin for 2 days like crazy. Good thing is that i can still lift thru it. It is still there at the gym but not interferring in lifts, just in walking lol.
My delts are usually fine, i have had this happen to them before but w sust so maybe my delts hate short esters... Never thought of that. Im going to cut my prop w eq tomorrow in AM to see how it goes
I get horrific pip from prop. Unbearable pain, i'll walk around like a peg legged pirate for a few days. I just can't do it and now just use cyp or E.
Yea i took prop one time before, but had mast and primo w it so i guess that cut it. Ive never used it to kick start and apparently its not a great choice... Fml
Cut Ur injects with Ur eq. Prop usually has pip and 400mg/ml test is heavy and will prolly have a bite. U have a allergy to the carrier oil? This might cause the lump bro. Try a 25g 1" needle like all the homies below have said. U should also try and give every site a rest to keep from abusing the muscle.
Ill try the different pins but i know its not overuse, just started pinning last week. Btw im taking 400mg test per week not in one pin... That wouldnt be fun. I take 400TestE and 800EQ per week
I would get some grape seed oil and cut it I think that would help you out a ton with the prop. test prop causes a lot of people pain including me and that's what I do
RustyhookerHere....cuz I'm nice. And its near xmas.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip
haha thanks bro
RustyhookerYou've got prop which causes many folks pip and then high Mg test which causes most people pip. Do the math and use that eq to blend out the pip.
Click my name....check the pip collaboration of several authors.
I use 25 x 1 also. Forces a slower injection. But you gotta blend bro!
I see what your saying... but my test is 300mg/ml and same for the eq. So i used 2 pins today... one that had 100mg prop (1ml)... and one that had 400EQ/200Test (total 2ml). Pinned in opposite quads and I can hardly walk.... fuck. Ill check your pip links. Ive never had PIP like this. Last time I used 200tren/200test cyp with no problem... why would the same test dose hurt now
I had a grapefruit sized lump from muscle overuse,but eventually it diminished in about 3 weeks. I was rotating injection sites, but the length of my cycle and eod tapering at cycle end lead to the over use.( A 20 week Test/EQ cycle ) If your gear has EO, that may lead to soreness over time or near the end of the cycle. Def would switch to 25ga pins.
Just my experience. Good luck
Im only 5 pins in and havent run a cycle in a year so i know its not overuse. Ive never been allergic to anything before but never paid attention to the oil type. Today i took one pin in my left leg of 400EQ and 200testE... No problem whatsoever. Took a second pin in right leg of 100mg prop and i legit cant walk. If i cut w EQ, hows that work since eq is 2x a week but prop is EOD?
Just cut your prop with the EQ. You can pin the EQ more frequently. Just monitor your total amount of EQ that you are using to cut the prop with and adjust your scheduled EQ shot dose accordingly. For example if your weekly EQ dose is 800mg and you have injected 600mg of EQ to cut your prop with, you only need 200mg more of EQ that you need to inject for that week.