simple cycle recommendation request
I have spent the last few days reading the profiles of many of the most popular AAS'
in preparation of my first cycle and, while I understand the concepts of aromatization, aromatization inhibitors, estrogen blockers, short/long esters, etc, I am still not clear on what to cycle.
stats:
I am 40 years old
train 4 days EW
I am on TRT @ 100mg test cyp EW
goals:
blast and cruise cycle
looking to bulk (add ~20lbs and keep ~10-15 after water weight loss)
I was thinking of running a 10 week cycle of:
40mg ED of d-bol or t-bol (front loading)
500mg EW of test e or test p (full cycle)
250mg EW deca (possibly?)
0.5mg ED of Anastrozole
but as I read more, I find that d-bol is bad about gyno and deca is bad for sexual function
leaving me with test and anastrozole. Is that about all I can take without the harsh sides?
I know I can combat the sides with ancillary x, y, and z but then those chems have their own sides which need to be supplemented and so on and so on.
I know I can use compounds that don't aromatize but they are all DHT derivatives and so they offer a whole new set of sides that are as bad as the aromatase based sides, or worse, and so they don't really offer a solution.
Is there an effective stack that will not give me gyno, break my sexual function, or make my hair fall out
without needing to supplement the stack with several levels of ancillary chems?
And lastly, since most of the compounds cause testicular shutdown/atrophy which is normally solved by a PCT but I am on a TRT regimen, how do I handle estrogen rebound and keeping my testes from shrinking during/post cycle?
Thank you.
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If this is going to be your first cycle you are trying to run to many compounds (d-bol, test, and deca). If you are getting unwanted side effects you won't know which compound is giving you the problems. Keep it simple for your blast. The recommended beginner cycle is 500mg test e for 10-12 weeks and have an AI ready to go in case estrogen sides show up.
All that being said, I don't think you are ready to do a cycle yet. Looking at your stats, you still should be able to put on mass naturally. Don't use any AAS until you have reached your natural potential. You say you have hit a plateau, you need to eat to get past that plateau. What is your BMR? How many calories do you eat every day? What is your macronutrient split and how many grams of protein do you eat a day? There is no room for guessing here. You need to keep a daily log of everything you eat to monitor calories and macros. If you are able to answer these questions and are eating to grow you should be making progress. Steroids will not do much for you if you are not eating right either.
Don't just use scale weight as a factor to determine if you have hit a plateau. You need to monitor your bodyfat as well. Your total weight may not be changing, but you could be gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time. So you are making progress in this case since you are gaining muscle.
Thanks for the sound advise. I mentioned that the deca was only a possible addition to the simple stack of test e and d-bol and the d-bol is only really meant to kick start the cycle while waiting on the test e to build up.
I would think any d-bol sides would be strong in the first few weeks and then subside in the following weeks due to the short half life of d-bol so it should be very clear what sides are d-bol related and which are test e related.
Which AI should be used to control estrogen sides. There are so many and its not clear why to use one over another or if/when to stack them (Nolvadex, Clomid, Anastrozol, Letro, Arimidex, etc.)
As for BMR, BF%, Micros, Macros, Calories, Diet, etc. , that is a whole different topic and I don't want to get into that here. This topic is more to the point of how to run a proper first/simple cycle while keeping sides completely under control and proper rebound in a blast and cruise scenario.
Thanks for your help.
I have been training off and on my whole life but my current training period started roughly six months ago; this is the same time that I started the TRT. I have not noticed any testicular atrophy and my doc checked during my last visit and said they are ok.
My diet is clean (oats, whole grains, fruits, veggies, varying proteins {chicken, beef, fish, nuts, beans, powders}, multivitamin). I don't know my exact macros or my body fat % but I would guess BF in the high teens.
Height is 5'7 and weight is 152lbs, up from 140lbs at the beginning of my training period six months ago but I seem to have plateaued at 152 as it has not increased over the last few weeks and I am mixing up my routine, eating plenty, etc.
As I mentioned, I am looking to add 15-20lbs from the cycle.
Thanks
Test e and hcg : your trt doc should have covered this...anastrazole ed is pretty heavy for 500 test...your doc should give you a baseline with bloodwork???
I'm not expert but I am currently on 500mg of Test E and was only using .25mg ED of anastrazole. Crashed my E2 to a level where I am not currently using any AI. May consider to see if you even need an AI at that level of Test but have some on hand just in case.
The side effects from the low e2 were worse then anything I've had with AAS.
What were the low e2 sides?
My doc has me on test c and has not prescribed any HCG yet. He has asked me about aggression, nipple pain, etc, of which I have none but he only has me on 100mg EW.
I had bloodwork done twice so far, last time test was at 700 and he said thats a little high but ok considering he is trying to keep me around 500 for now.
Obviously, this would be my cruise number.
300 to 1250 is normal...why keep you at 500?
Did he do a full panel or just test you testosterone?...its good to get a baseline of you E levels before self medicating your ai..ask him for hcg for the boys ...also watch you cholesterol if taking ai everyday it wacks the shit out of your hdl
He just did t levels. I will ask for a full panel. Thanks. I'm not sure how to take HCG considering I'm on a TRT regimen vs a typical on/off cycle. My diet is low in cholesterol in general but thanks again for the tip. I will keep cholesterol especially low when on cycle (blasting).
56tooHow long have you been working out? Hows your diet and as RH asks what is your BF% ,height and weight
RustyhookerBodyfat % and goals will help get started. You're on trt for how long? No testicular atrophy?