posted Sat, 08/31/2019 - 04:57
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Hi, I just have a quick question. Looked in the archives but although I KNOW It is surely answered somewhere I wasn't able to find it. So, please bear with me and answer this for probably the 1000th time...
I'm new to oils, and if I understand correctly-
If I plan to run 500mg test e/week, and my vials are 250mg... Then I should be injecting 2ml? (250mg per ml)
I've run orals in the past and have done several weeks of research etc before making this decision, understand safe injecting (really just common sense) but before I stick this in my thigh or buttcheek want to be 100% sure wtf I'm doing...
Any questions you might have I likely already answered in my "introduce yourself".
Big THANKS in advance. Much appreciated.
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CibaI'd prefer to go 1ml/250mg e3d or 0.9ml (if you really want to be anal about the whole 500mg a week) for the most stable bloodlevels instead of the monday and thursday injection protocol.
That works as well. Doubt blood would be more stable but it is just as good as any other schedule.
Alphamale500Imo, at your height and weight you should be more concerned with getting enough food just to survive, nevermind using aas and putting on muscle!!
jayiskWhat a real mind blow..., look into test esters weight..;}
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/are-you-ready... That guy seems to have a good starting point. If you are running 500mg per week and you have test 250 you would break that up with 1cc Monday and then another cc Thursday. Pick days you want, but make it even. You can dive into this shit and learn everything you need to know in a couple weeks. You need to be able to filter out bullshit(scammers reviews). Read all sticky post on this site. This site will not steer you wrong. Might be loaded with a bunch of dicks ready to talk shit but under that they just want to help. Main thing is to be prepared before you start. Blood work is key to avoiding wasting your time. Usually if someone has a low karma you probably should avoid their reply. I am probably an exception. You have to make that decision though. Also ready the shit out of reviews before purchasing. Know your laws and think about consequences.
You related to Basskiller?
Haven't heard that name in a while.
Alphamale500"You can dive into this shit and learn everything you need to know in a couple weeks"
I have to ask, was this a typo or do you honestly believe this statement?? I need to know for sure before I comment on this statement.
2 week of reading is plenty of time to figure out everything you need to know to run a 1st cycle. This site has everything laid out for someone 1st starting. Years ago a group of guys got together to lay out this information. Maybe you guys haven't read shit on this site. Maybe you think that all the "new" information is best. The stickies are still there for a reason. They are good info. If you think you have better info then write a thread.
Curious what your old handle was.
Before your time...
Figured as much when I looked at friends list. Just curious. No problemo.
Already perfect advice in here. I will just note a couple of points, already outlined.
1- understand at your age the likelihood of your natural testosterone production bouncing back to where it is now is.....unlikely after this cycle.
2- I understand you may feel you're ready. But you should really educate yourself far better before taking this plunge in my opinion. Understand i am not hating, I am helping.
Asking if 500mg = 2ml out of a 250mg/ml vial shows a lack of the most basic knowledge on the subject as I'm seeing it. You stated you've run orals in the past.....do you now at least understand how poor of a cycle choice that was with no testosterone base?
Again I am just trying to help you, not saying this for my own health. You should know this path could likely end you up with low T afterwards. A good chance you'll end up needing to be on TRT after it. (Not a good thing)
Like DfromPhilly said, make sure you understand all the risks. And make sure you gather all the knowledge you'll need to safely inject it. A few weeks just isn't enough to learn it all and learn it right.
And understand AAS isn't going to do shit for you unless your diet and training are on point.
Completely unaware that my t levels may not be able to come back. Even with proper pct? Damn that itself is a big discouragement. I just wanted a little shortcut back to where I was a few years ago.
When I was running orals (7-8 years ago) I wanted to stay away from needles due to the fear of black market necrosis and shit, yeah bad choice but hey, thats not even in the top 10 as far as stupid shit I've done by the age of 43. (And you guys know what I mean, and if you don't, you need to go get a life and make some bad decisions before you die. I bet most of you have gotten ahold of more questionably toxic pussy than I EVER have, so...)
When I was on orals, I did it right as far as I could, I had my charts and completely understood everything about the chemicals I was putting in my body. Only did that shit for about a year 1/2. Like I said below I got too big for my own comfort.
As far as not knowing dosing, hey, I trust knowledgeable people here more than f-ing google. After all I was a member on here 7-8 years ago. And I don't like googling illegal shit.duh. I know its common f-in sense but hey wanted to make sure.
I do appreciate the TRUE concern about my health and decisions, but one thing on here that hasn't changed in 8 years- the holier than thou, know it all, assumption making, mad cause you got a tiny dick attitude. Lol. Not making any accusations or finger pointing, they know who they are.
I definitely DON'T want to be a needle slave for the rest of my life. THAT would suck. Even with proper pct??? I mean hell I never did a cycle without proper pct in hand before starting.
Thanks.
Alphamale500I gotta say, you come across like a real jerkoff by the way you talk and the things you say. And not just a jerkoff, but a complete idiot as well! It's very obvious that you don't know anything about running gear! You do realize that right? You've been a member for just a few days and think it's alright to talk about this site and my fellow members the way you do? I mean, just take a look at these stupid remarks that came out of your mouth;
"you need to go get a life and make some bad decisions before you die."
"I just wanted a little shortcut back to where I was a few years ago."
THIS IS MY FAVORITE;
"yeah bad choice but hey, thats not even in the top 10 as far as stupid shit I've done by the age of 43."
FUCKN MORON!!! LOL!
"completely understood everything about the chemicals I was putting in my body." -YEAH BUT YOU COULDN'T DIVIDE 500 BY 2! SMFH, LOL!!!
Those are very irresponsible, foolish and outright stupid statements to make, don't you think? But I guess that's not even in the top 10 of stupid shit that you've done right? Smfh!! And you said that you don't wanna be a needle slave for the rest of your life? Well there's a very simple way to prevent that! Don't use any type of steroids, and don't use needles! And to help you do that, maybe take your arrogant, childish jerkoff attitude and go make your "bad decisions" somewhere else! Just a thought.
Rustyhooker"one thing on here that hasn't changed in 8 years- the holier than thou, know it all, assumption making, mad cause you got a tiny dick attitude. "
Truth hurt ya didnt it
I mean hell I never did a cycle without proper pct
You did orals only for a year and a half. You havent even completed a proper cycle.
Alphamale500I don't think he even realizes the stupid shit that comes out of his mouth bro!!!+
RustyhookerFrustration. It gets us all fired up.
Alphamale500I hear you bro!! This guy, smfh man!!!
It shouldn't get you fired up. You should understand that people get fed the wrong info. Go back 8 years just on this site. What was a good pct? People also make dumb mistakes. Even though you knew better you still did not listen to advice when you 1st started. Why would this guy even hang around when everyone is talking shit?
Rustyhooker: 43
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 160
BF:
Dude needs bloods first. Op isnt listening nor does he care.
Yes, its simple math if a vial is 250mg/ml if you want 500 you need 2cc's! etc!
You’re 43, and it seems like you know what you’re doing (with nutrition and lifting, anyway). I’d suggest you do much more research before taking the plunge.
You need to know that at your age there may be no turning back after you take the plunge. You may not recover and that means slave to the needle for the rest of your life.
If you’re good with that... TRULY good with that, you’re an adult and I’m not going to hold back a basic answer just because you don’t meet our typical standards. This is only because of your experience that I’ve read below.
Please do more research and reflect more before you go into this. By then you’ll likely be at a weight that is more reasonable to start a cycle. You want to get as much as you can before you start so that it’s more effective (trust us on that).
All that said, yes. It’s basic math. If something is 100mg/ml, then 1ml = 100mg. 250mg/ml means 1 ml = 250mg. So if you want 500mg a week of something that’s 250mg/ml, you simply do that math. 2ml would equal 250x2=500
Just like 500mg of 100mg/ml would be 5ml to = 500mg.
2.3ml of something that’s 350mg/ml = 805mg (and so on)
It’s all just doing basic math.
Just be safe and use your noggin, man. There’s a lot of info on this site to soak up. So soak it up. It’s not a dedication that should be made in a couple weeks. It’s not a game. So just make sure you know everything there is to know and the consequences before you make a decision, and be safe.
What’s your background/goals? You said cruise weight and have done oral only cycles, so I’m assuming you compete in something?
Also, you’re getting up there as far as age goes. What’s your natty levels looking like?
Alphamale500I just wanna add, that with just "a few weeks of research", do you honestly think you're ready to be using injectable aas? Or even any gear right now after asking this question;
"If I plan to run 500mg test e/week, and my vials are 250mg... Then I should be injecting 2ml? (250mg per ml)"??
Even if you have experience with oral aas and not injectables, then you should know the answer to this question!! Being that you don't, says to me that you need to do a lot more research before making the decision to use gear of any type.
And especially for those new to using injectable aas, performing safe and proper aas injections is a bit more than common sense. There's many variables that come into play. And lets say it's just common sense. With the above question you asked, can you even do it properly and safely? Because some might say that's a common sense question that you asked.
Using aas of any kind is not something you decide with just a few weeks of research. Common sense should tell you that!
+1 bro
Nice.
I researched for 2 years before using AAS, despite my yolo buddies telling me it was nothing and that I should just jump on. ++
PcushionYesssss!
You don’t need steroids bro. You need calories and a training program. The last thing you want to do is run a cycle and then at the end of it you still look underweight and look like you don’t work out.
Apparently nobody read my "introduce yourself". I've been Lifting for 20 years, and am right now at a cruise weight, which is already gone up 5 lb since my posting to the introduce yourself, thanks muscle memory! Won't be starting my cycle for several more weeks.
I understand what you’re saying and by no way am I trying to insult you. I only come on here to get help myself and to help others with less experience than me.
That being said, at 165lb I’m hoping when you say your “waiting a couple more weeks” you mean 100 weeks. Because you need to train AND eat correctly for another 2 years first. I understand that you’re saying you’ve been training for 20 years. But if you’ve been training for 20 years in the way 165lb you’re clearly not eating right.
If you add 20lb right now on a cycle and maybe keep 10lb of it your still only 175lb... You think it makes sense to use steroids to get to 175lb is really needed? Honest question
I completely understand where you're coming from. However, I think a little bit more information about my physiology might be needed to understand where I'm coming from.
I lifted for approximately 12 years completely natty. Going hard. Really f---ing hard. Lots of protein, excellent nutrition. Borderline nutrition Nazi. Excellent rest everything you're supposed to do. I had a crazy Fast Metabolism. Blood work was all normal wasn't anything off, I just burn calories like an inferno. Then I got to the point where I was eating so much and so much protein that I just got terribly stinky farts and was shiting three or four times a day, and wasn't able to get over 180 on the natch. However, even at 180 I look pretty beastly due to my small bone structure, I was very "lumpy". Enter anabolic steroids, orals to be precise. Went up over 200 fairly easily. However about 210 I started feeling heavy and not very Nimble and Light On My Feet. 220 was unbearable as far as comfort. Then I had a series of injuries one right after the other, stopped lifting completely. Slowly dropped weight back down to about 155.
Even at 155 I don't look that skinny , I still have definition and muscle tone. About two years ago I recovered enough for my injuries, and most importantly stopped re-injuring myself, that I was able to start circuit training and lifting light weights again a couple times a week. About 2 months ago I started getting much more serious with my lifting and really amping it up over the last couple weeks , deciding that I'm going to go ahead and swell back up again. My goal is about 190 lb. I have crazy excellent muscle memory. I really am an anomaly, and I understand it's hard to understand, even I really don't understand it, but all I have to do is half ass workout everyday for a couple weeks and I start to swell up again. So what I'm trying to say is in 8 weeks or so I will most likely be swelled back up to 175 or thereabouts, yes I know hard to believe but I've done it before, and after that I am going to do a cycle of test e. I'm not doing orals because I don't want to tax my liver. All I'm trying to do is get a little bit of a shortcut to get back to where I was. A place that I got to through hard work everyday (naturally) sometimes twice a day, sometime going until I barfed, as I'm sure some of you understand. Hell Christ I'm 43 years old and I don't feel like doing all that crazy hard work again, especially since my body is not at its Peak Performance as it used to be and I want a shortcut - effing sue me lol.
I appreciate everybody's concern, but seriously. I just wanted an answer to my question
Exactly bro- I notice way too much “holier than thou” and mob mentality sometimes on here; you’ve always kept it 100 and been respectful from all that I’ve seen over the years.
I’m the same way- you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. But, sometimes guys are going to do what they’re going to do and we can only try to mitigate horrendous health hazards by giving suggestions.
Refer to the John Meadows reference below OP.
Thanks bro, and I think it’s the right way to go. When you have a polite conversation with someone they listen and they absorb the information and then they ask more questions back. So whenever I see you guys come on here and just start insulting someone and swearing at them it just causes a fight and then they’re not going to listen anything you have to say. That doesn’t help anyone in the long run.
RustyhookerAge: 43
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 160
BF:
Id suggest you get bloods done by your dr first. See if you need trt and IF youre healthy.
Youre also bout 40lbs underweight...no muscle....your diet and gym modified FIRST before you even think about steroids.
This here post by you answers even more of why you dont need steroids
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/introduction/hello-139
I agree with Rusty 100%- steroids should be the very last piece of the puzzle once all other resources are exhausted and your diet is in check, you know what macro ratios work best for you in bulking and cutting, understand the science behind nutrition and AAS, have your workout routine down to a t and have figured out what best suites your body/CNS (lower reps higher weight, lower weight higher reps, etc).
John Meadows uses an analogy with fat loss and how too many people “play all of their cards” all at once or too quickly, and don’t allow for each “card” to be fully utilized before “playing” another one.
If you introduce AAS straight out of the gate without having fully exhausted every other resource at your disposal and dialed everything else in, you not only will not reap the full benefits, but you’ll also be hard pressed in making beneficial gains in the future without AAS due to this. I could explain this in further detail and better no doubt, but I hope you get the gist of it.
However, like a few of the other guys stated in your intro post, I do believe that blood work at your doctors office to check your hormonal panel and general health is a great idea. If you qualify and your body would benefit from it, DOCTOR SUPERVISED (emphasis on those two words) TRT can make an exponential difference and allow you to optimize your results for the immediate future until you are ready for AAS cycles.
PcushionExcellent stuff!
RustyhookerFull coverage and complete. High five