posted Fri, 01/27/2012 - 15:54
2012
PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND
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I took emass 3x and developed gyno...I want to know if the gyno is progesterone or estrogen so i know if i can take nolva or not after letro tapering. Emass 3x is made up of halovar(which doesnt aromatize, superdrol which also doesnt aromatize, and max LMG which is a progestin but apparently has anti-progesterone properties) I am soo confused on how I could get gyno if they dont aromatise to estrogen and the max lmg acts as a anti-progesterone. I am sure I am overlooking something, however I got puffy,sore nipples, with lumps, and small lactation when squeezed during just the first week. PLEASE someone help me understand how I developed gyno, and what gyno it is. Thank you, I love this site and love learning about this stuff.
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Methoxygonadiene... Fuck that shit. I tried that stuff a while back and I woke up one day and my nipples were puffy as fuck and started hurting. I stopped taking that crap damn quick. Progesterone gyno is nothing to fuck with, you can stop it wit Letrozole if you catch it early enough because estrogen increases the sensitivity of progesterone receptors, so if you send your estrogen levels spiraling down you can stop it in it's tracks. But when if it's to late, the only way to get rid of it is surgery, or else any prolactin and progesterone in a later cycle is going to make that shit worse.
TropicanaJuiceIm not sure if its prog or estro thats the thing. And if its prog Then using Nolva for my SERM after letro for controlling rebound will make the gyno worse appearntly because it upregulates prog receptors
OJ huh?
proly so
AnonLike I said in your other post.. the only way any one here can access your situation is if we see a blood work panel.. and at that point, 99.8% of the people still won't..
Go get one done and it'll take me 19 seconds to tell you if its estrogen or prog
TropicanaJuiceIm gonna try and go early this week. Say it is prog gyno and I used letro and then tapered off what SERM could I use instead of nolva that wont make it worse? Because I guess whether it is prog or estro I can still follow a prog protocol with letro and a SERM and itll cover both bases ...just not estro protocol incase it really is prog
Get blood work done and you will be able to find out for sure
TropicanaJuiceI got blood work done and I cant remember what was slightly elevated, my doctor called and said it was all around normal. That cycle was about a year ago, if I got blood work now wont my levels just be normalized? therefore no way to really tell now
Ah i see your dilemma and your doctor wouldnt diagnose it for you thats kinda shitty and pro hormones not the way to go but im sure you know that now but from the info given its kinda hard to say i dont know enough about progestin gyno to know the diff im sure some vets will chime in and try to help you
TropicanaJuiceYes My dilemma is extremely frusterating Ive logged countless hours and still confused, and I wont touch prohormones again, was mislead by people who i shoulda never listened to...at the time thats all I had for advice.