-1 Please help, horrid face bloat
Hey eroids fam,
I'm going to apologize first hand if this is way too long. I just really need some help and hope everyone reads the whole thing.
I'm going to try and make this pretty detailed so I can get the best accurate responces from the vets/everyone. Every time I cycle I always get face bloat. I always though I naturally had a fat face until two years ago I did a really nasty cut and I really saw my jaw line and cheekbones and everything was really swell. I dropped down to about 7% on that cut but I was really skinny (did only cardio).
Now my problem: Ever time I cycle, my face bloats. I mean it legit looks like it is swollen. I don't know how or why or how the hell this even happens. It really is a mystery because Itend to believe i'm doing everything almost right, and even at the low doses i'm on it shouldn't be this bad. I might think Hcg has something to do with it but I'm not too sure.
Age: 29
BF: ~16
Weight: ~205
Height: 5'11
*Note: I'm on TRT so I don't PCT. (When I cruse at my normal dose, I don't usually bloat. Unless I eat total shit (110mg weekly) Test E.
Prior cycles (3): 1st cycle: 12 weeks test e @ 500 mg. .25 eod arimidex.250 x1 hcg weekly last 8 weeks.
2nd cycle: 1-5 tbol 80ng. 12 weeks test e @ 500 mg. .25 eod arimidex.250 x1 hcg weekly last 8 weeks.
3rd cycle: 1-5 tbol 80mg. 16 weeks deca 400mg. 16 weeks test e @ 500 mg. .25 eod arimidex.250 x1 hcg weekly last 8 weeks.
Current Cycle:
1-12 Test E 250mg
1-12 Tren E 300mg
1-12 Mast E 300mg (more for libido than anything else and keeping bloat down)
1-12 12.5 eod aromasin
1-12 Caber .25mg 2x e3d
1-12 n2guard (despite dylans bs it actually works. BP checked ed and been solid 120/70)
-----Before you guys eat me alive for trying different compounds on every cycle, I get it. Its dangerous, I should go slow and steady. But what is done is done and now i'm 3 weeks into this cycle with minimal sides. I've always tried to keep my doses low to avoid sides.
My diet is simple. I know this post is getting long so I don't want to bore you guys to absolute death.
I'll be totally honest here i'm having a hard time keeping my diet 100% clean.
I'm on 2300 cal a day. 50/30/20 carbs. My sodium is less than 1000mg. I TRY to drink a gallon a day, if anyone saw my other post ims till having trouble doing it but I'm getting close. I'm up to 3/4 of a gallon a day now. I'm not going to lie, my weekends are totally sloppy and horrible. I know this is bad but could this be a contributing factor? I will totally get off this cycle if this bloat doesn't subside. Maybe my weekend habits are out of control. My daily eating is clean. I try to get everything in. But I do have a snack or two that's just total junk foo (maybe an ice cream, or some chocolates) but should that make my face bloat this bad? Other parts of my body aren't too bad.
Sorry this is so long everyone. I just really need some serious advice because I'm tired of this always happening to me. Its really un motivating looking ugly as shit with a bloated face. I think my weekend habits may be catching up, but I just know so many people who eat shit on cycle and have a faily lean face.
THanks a lot for any help and sorry again if this is long as balls.
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Yes you get bloat if u decide to throw in some chocolates or ice cream every day.
Bro.... just have to say I wish you luck I truly do but here is food for thought.... do you want to look like a pork chop or a chicken breast? What goes in shows.
before i even read the posts below. your diet sucks. , sorry but true. , you have a detailed cycle log. ..which gets me smh a little bit here ... because imo your e2 is clearly. out of whack also and you having it under control on them.other cycles. makes me think you know how to run... ..but at the same time , all it takes is one compound. to make the differnce. ..but lets look here ..
as i see tren e , and mast were added. , you should have added 1. ... ummm blood work here a must. ..and with out that , were guessing. ... but if the only 2 compounds difdernt are mast and tren e , 1 if not both are elevating e2. ... and im guessing at the e2. because of moon face. ...but the diet is bad. ...
this something you need to figure out. !! example.i dont put out my shit online. but for this example i will ..im or was the last 1.5 years a tren runner. 6 on and off time 8 on and off time. sometimes longer. but..i NEVER ..used a ai. i currently started a ment and low dose prop cycle. ... and mother fucker my e2 went crazy. ...1 compound done this. ,,, so i knew because i added only 1 compound what caused my issues ( and believe me it threw me for a loop because im not e2 sensative. ) SO I THOUGHT. , but i started. ugl aro. , (top source) to no avail. , then i broke out my pharma. , aro. and i got it down to 12.5 e3d. ...
sorry but to all members , when it comes to ai and pct ...pharma. ... whats tour ai. pharma.or ugl. ??? because my ugl did nothing. ...im just giving you words for thought here ... and for me now that i feel.i got it dialed in ....its time for bloods to back it up...
srt8calithanks for yurndedailed reply bro! much appreciated. definitely agree on the whole diet is shit! trying my best to change it. also goig to switch my carb sources. i like white potatoes but i'm thinking of going fiberous. i was thinking e2 might be off too but like e all said it's a guessing game. i drew my
blood today and hopefully will post the results online and get someone guidance from everyone. thanks again !!
ShreddedfreddyLower your carbs and eat clean! It will get rid of that...
srt8calithanks, trying! hard to lower carbs on tren lol
Get bloods, post them, and the vets will dial you in. Oh and get it together on the weekends, chasing pussy and drinking alcohol are a killer on cycle.
srt8calithanks bro. and yep i totally agree. not touching a drink anymore until it's time to come off
Your diet is shit, fix the obvious first and get some bloodwork too.
srt8calitrying to work on closing my mouth around sweets lol. thanks! just got drawn
Weekends include binge drinking/ beer??
That will cause it.
Cycle is shit, ai dosing bunk.
Research half life of drugs before using.
Go get checked.
Good luck.
srt8calisadly yes the weekends did include that. but i am cutting that asap. not worth it. just got my blood drawn. thanks for the advice!
any reason u say my cycle is shit? i've had help crafting it
The ai and caber.
As always half life is key.
Caber .25mg e3d and aromasin 12.5 e2d? What would u suggest? I'm always good with 0.5mg caber a week and aromasin I'd probably even take less
Yes bloods without doubt, check estro for starters, but I wager everything you need to answer your issue is in your post.
Just an observation or 5....
You are managing E2 with a new compound ytet treating the frequency the same as previous = no research done on your Ai
Your diet is shit at the weekend
Your diet during the week is shit too
I always though I naturally had a fat face - well if you eat like that, then you did I'd say, naturally
and finally.....
Every time I cycle I always get face bloat + Shit diet 7 days a week = + fat = more aromatase enzyme = guess what?????? - do the maths brosef
Bloods for definitive answers rather than guess work. Get your bodyfat tested and give yourself a shock. Oh, and once again.... stop drowning yourself!
srt8calithanks man! i appreciate the advice. def need bloods ill be getting them later today
What do you mean go get bloods? Are you self prescribed trt?
srt8calino doc prescribed. always testing no higher than 300.
and goig to get bloods my ordering online panel. just finished getting drawn hopefully they come back quick so i can update this post
Doc prescribed, when was the last time your doc ordered bloods?
srt8caliprobably about 7 months ago.
it went up 40 points to 280
So 7 months ago you were tested and you were at 280, up 40 from the last visit, then what?
srt8calithen nothing haven't really went back bro i gave up. that was maybe the 4th test i took and it was under 300. he gave me androgel but i didn't want that bs. i stayed off test for maybe a few months and felt decent. i was going to try clomid but no endo would prescribe it to me. it's hard af finding someone who knows wtf they r talking about. not very much docs are good with low t stuff. they all just run to test
What's wrong with the gel. Many docs start people out on that first to see if works. Less of a rollercoaster compared to biweekly pins plus you don't have to deal with pinning and the pitfalls that can bring. I would still be using the gel if my insurance didn't drop covering topical test applications.
There was a reason he didnt prescribe, because your numbers were improving.
srt8calihopefully i get shut down really hard so i can fully make a comeback with clomid/hcg i found a really good doc near me he has his own hcg regime his name is eric and he's actually been talked about on this board i'll be seeing him in 3 months after my cycle hopefully he can help
How about not cycling and try and get your natural test back instead of pushing your luck?
You already said it you use alot of compounds the reason for a test only cycle then adding compounds 1 by 1 is so you can know how to control things like bloat.
As rusty said bloods are the key and will tell you what is elevated. Getting bloat down has to do with the compounds you take could be estro could be controlled by dialling in your estro better or adding compounds like Proviron.
Your already on mast and tren so my deduction without bloods is your just wearing a normal bloat coat. It comes with the territory of running gear.
Good luck and good gains brother
srt8calithank you bro! appreciate it.
getting bloods done today
Once you have bloods post them up and will help you out brother
RustyhookerLotta writing there....no bloods to get you answers.
So...get bloods. Or you're still guessing as well as everyone who's gonna reply with theories.
srt8caliditto.
definitely going to get them tomorrow