posted Sat, 11/30/2013 - 00:43
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Pinning test year round
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Is it safe to pin 500 mg or so of Test E or Test Cyp year round? Nothing else. No orals. Just the test..
Thanks.
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ScomuleYou're right. Risk versus reward is against me. So I think I'll change my mind. Thanks, guys.
WithdrawlI wouldn't. Higher than normal test levels can increase your blood thickness (increased RBC and hematocrit) which makes our heart work harder to pump thicker blood. It also increases the risk of heart attack and stroke. Short term it's not that huge of a deal but for the rest of your life I believe it is. Better have everything else in your life in check like diet and exercise and estrogen management. Better to do TRT doses so you can keep your body in the most normal state possible. But don't do that unless you HAVE to. Just cycle responsibly and you'll be much better off.
ScomuleIt's okay, I googled up the term. With all respect, I'm not a troll.
I apologize if my post makes that impression.
ScomuleCan someone please tell me what a troll is?
Basically posting stuff up just to get people upset and to start problems. Best of luck.
It is not safe or recommended by anyone for any reason. I will stay away from the bridge you hide under now because this post and your other one stinks of Troll.
Go to trt/hrt doctor...get labs done...see where you are at...doctor will put you on hcg and test and ai...they will monitor your bloods once a month including lipids and liver function(get on liver support vitamins)...if you are intent on feeling good year round at 56 im not gonna talk you out of it. Im 36 on year round (trt) from a doctor and i do 1 to 2 cycles a year of AAS...do ot right and you will be fine...heavy doses of test are not needed...250mg split a week are plenty for me to stay 1300-1500 range..good luck because this can become a permenant life choice
aylmejorWell ur 56. You should try to go to the doc and get TRT. If that's not possible you could do it yourself. 500 is probably not needed, but I don't know ur stats and whatnot. 250 or 125 will have you feeling good. Get bloods done on that. You may not even need an ai at such a dose. Good luck bud!!! :-D
There is a reason you "cycle" juice. There comes a point where the body will get accustom to all that test and you will just piss it out with zero benefits, I believe its the steroid plateau.
With all due respect that is not quite how it works. You may plateau at a particular dosage as far as gains go, but that doesn't mean that you will just "piss it out with 0 benefits" or 0 sides. You will still reap the benefits such as increased recovery, nitrogen retention, free testosterone levels being elevated, shbg being suppressed, etc.
Ask any pro here or vet and they will tell you the most they "cruise" on is 250 year round. Ask them why they choose that amount instead of 500 or more. 90% of test is secreted into the urine. Everyone's body will attempt to normalize any amount of drug you continuously put in your body with estrogen or lsh fs, e.t.c, hence why drug addicts need more of their fix to get the same high. Will you still gain muscle on the same dose of test all year round? maybe, as long as you work twice as hard. I'm not an expert at this shit but I do know enough to be dangerous. That's what I meant by plateau, you might not gain anything but you can still keep what you have.
aylmejorWtf are you talking about. Plz explain??
Using supraphysiological levels of testosterone all year long is quite common in bodybuilding circles at advanced levels - this I know from personal experience. I get labs every three weeks like clock work. I would not be able to maintain the supraphysiological amount of muscle mass I carry without doing this. You must have a reason for asking this question? If you were a pro, you probably wouldn't be asking this question, so what are you thinking?? WhyNot, however, is right - doing this is not supportive of your health and I do have a team of specialists that help manage this situation with a long list of medicines. My medicine cabinet looks like I'm an organ transplant patient with complications.
ScomuleI'm 56, and I just like the feeling that test gives me. Better sexual function, rock hard erections, good muscularity, much better workouts. I've cycled 5-6 times with test, using Anadrol as a kickstart, and have had almost zero side effects.
Perhaps cruising at a sinificantly lower dose for a while would be an option.
But test really seems to agree with me.
Why don't you get on TRT and get yourself into the high normal range, learn how to dial yourself in 1st then you can do 2 mild cycles a year and not have to worry about PCT.
ScomuleThanks for all the great information guys. I appreciate it.
I wouldn't risk it unless you're a professional bodybuilder who has monthly blood tests and a team of specialists on hand and even then it's pretty pointless.
Absolutely not. You will not remain healthy if you stay at supraphysiological levels of testosterone, year after year. Eventually it will catch up with you. Even TRT patients run into problems on long-term therapy because they don't manage their protocol properly.
More than likely, regardless of your stats, pinning 500 mg of either, year round, would not be good for your overall health. It could send your lipids out of control, blood pressure, no AI mentioned which means you would likely have out of control estro and related sides. Not recommended and not sure why you would even want to do it at that dose.
You have a simple question but before people are gonna respond you have to lay out some things: hgt, wgt, bodyfat, Goal, have you used gear before and if so when and what and for how long???...good luck