+ 2 NPP Thread
I know that we have a few of these already, but the weathers changing and with bulking season looming I thought I would start a new thread focusing on NPP and getting big this year.
This fall will be my first run with NPP and I'm looking to get community input on the compound (i.e. anecdotal experience [DETAILS people, details..] pros, cons, cycle lengths, orals to compliment, diets that have proved effective, training regimens that worked, PCT issues that have resulted from NPP use, prolactin inhibitor experiences, anecdotal gains, and anything else we can come up with as a community.)
As I said this will be my first tango with NPP; I tried Deca in the past and had to abandon the run due to SEVERE bacne, lets hope NPP is nicer to me.
My STATS are:
29
5'8"
215 lbs
12-14% bf
I have not done a cycle in about 8 months.
I have experience using sustanon, eq, masteron enan and prop, tren ace, enan, and hex, test cyp, test enan, tne, test suspension, mtren, sd, dbol, anadrol, winstrol, halo, anavar, bromo, caber, prami, arimidex
T3, hgh, igf 1- des, and ive probably forgot something.
Steroids are NOT magic. Diet and dedication ARE required. Blood work SHOULD NOT BE OPTIONAL. If you are under 25, have not been training for AT LEAST 3 years, have not tried an array of different diets and routines and DO NOT HAVE A SOLID PLAN AND GOAL, please do not use steroids. Its possible to have VERY harsh,VERY long lasting negative consequences from steroid use.
With that being said, I welcome any and all input. Let's see what we can come up with guys and gals.
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prest904Ran NPP months ago with prop while doing a little cut. Main thing I got out of it was it managed to keep me full with good strength and pumps while still being in a slight deficit(most days at maintenance though, I don't cut too hard). Was a lot less water retained on NPP than regular deca so that's a huge plus for me. I'd say overall it's a pretty smooth compound and multi purpose for the most part, might use it again in the future if I ever choose to bulk hard.
Guys,
I also need your feedback about my bulking 8 Weeks EOD Cycle
Consist:
Npp - Tpp - Anastrozole - Hcg - Clomiphen - Tamoxifen
Begin 4 Days: Only Tpp 50mg Each (200mg)
MON - WED - FRI - SUN
WK 1. (For 2 Weeks)
Npp 350mg (50mg each) -
Tpp 455mg (65mg each) -
WK 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Npp 455mg (65mg each) -
Tpp 560mg (80mg each) -
Last 4 Weeks: (5, 6, 7, 8)
Hcg 500 IU (once a Week)
WK 9. PCT (For 3 Weeks)
Day 1 - 14
Clomiphen 50mg (Daily)
Tamoxifen 20mg (Daily)
Day 15 - 21
Clomiphen 25mg (Daily)
Tamoxifen 10mg (Daily)
Cheers...
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs
npp is my go to nandrolone and favorite bulking oil. gives me a thickness to my physique that test alone simply cannot produce. i usually pin it ED or EOD. my favorite oral to stack on anything is anadrol. i dont bloat at all on drol so drol + nandrolone thickens me up quick with little to no water! some will say you shouldnt stack drol with npp cus of anecdotal progesterone activity.. i think its bullshit. and ive never had prolactin sides from either. test, npp, drol cycled in and out is my go to winter bulking cycle
Ive used npp a few times now as well as low doses during cuts just for joint support. The highest ive gone is 600mgs ew. Ive pinned it on cycle eod and mwf, couldnt tell a difference between the two. When using it for joint support at a very low dose ive actualy gotten away with twice a week pins without issue. Ive made some great gains while on it. Ive actually ran it higher then my test before ( not on purpose). Bloodwork revealed my test was wayyy underdosed my guess was the 800mgs I thought i was running was more like 400. So 400mgs of test with 600mgs of npp no DA and I had zero ED issues. Its affinity for the progestrone receptor is something like 20% where as tren is 50%, I needed prami on tren but no with never with npp. Nandrolone is definitely my favorite injectable besides test, doesnt mess with my appetite at all actually increases it, doesnt make me lethargic, just all around great drug for building muscle, Ive been thinking about using it while cutting, keeps you incredibly full, wont destory my appetite like tren or make me feel like shit, low water if diets on point. The only orals ive used with it is dbol and M1T, I would suggest using dbol. That test deca dbol cycle isnt called a classic bulker for nothing, drol would be another option. With a big surplus or quality calories and punishing workouts in the gym it will add some serious size to you. Another plus of npp is you can get away with shorter cycles. Doesnt have to be 14 weeks or so like deca.
With that said im gonna run deca this winter. Possibly with a npp kicker. Theres something to be said for longer esters and muscle gain. I ran deca a long long time ago I dont remember anything about it. So ill see how the gains are compared to npp and if theyre better ill stick to deca in the future. If theyre comparable ill stick with npp.
NPP is my favorite, nice lean gains without the water and you still get the joint relief. For me I can tell no difference in pinning ed or eod. I've always used 50 mg ed or 100 mg eod, but my next cycle I'm bumping it to 150 mg eod. If you want to keep the bloat down the Tbol would be an ideal oral, and if you don't mind some bloat try drol pusled 2 weeks on 2 weeks off then again up to 8 weeks. I used drol last time with NPP and didn't have much water weight and bloat at all, just have your AI dialed in. You'll appreciate the full blown pumps during workouts, quick recovery, and strength gains that NPP is known for.
I also run my caber or prami a couple weeks into pct just to cover prolactin issues, just because the ester is only 3 days doesn't mean it's not still in your system and still shutting you down and can be detected in your system for up to a yr almost. I think this is where most people run into not recovering and horash shut down is because all the while they're doing pct with nolva and clomid, the prolactin prevents the rebooting of the HPTA.
good post, should get interesting in here.
From my experience, NPP would be great for cutting (can be used for bulking as it all depends on calorie intake). I can never think of running NPP with out Prami or Caber. Mostly I run it for joint support during a cut. For me dosage between 500-800mg/week works great. Boosts my appetite.
Lethargy and prolactin/progesterone activity are great concerns being on NPP
If you opt to run it, Stock with plenty of Caber/Prami
Prami might give u some horrible sides so would suggest to start with very low dosages.