-2 Not much fro test/ tren- first cycle
I started my first cycle 7 wks ago. It looks like this:
Test e- 500 mg/wk 1-12
Dbol- 30 mg 1-4
Tren ace- was going to be 50 mg ED 1-5, since I haven't seen many gains I extended(still on) and bumped it to 75 mg ED.
I have hardly seen any gains from this cycle except for the dbol, which I gained 18 lbs from and bench increased 60 lbs. My strength has been close to the same since stoping dbol and I haven't really lost any fat or gained from the tren.
I know my gear is legit, as I have done my research. Both the tren, test, and source I chose have great reviews. The only things I really notice is a watery look, puffy nipples, increased libido and vascularity, sweating more at gum at first,that's really about it. I know tren is supposed to be great stuff, but I'm not seeing much from it. I mean I'm on week 7 at 75mg and don't look much different from when I started my cycle. What's going on here? I've even tried 3 reputable brands of tren throughout this cycle and still not much. I do know my joints, mainly shoulders have been sore.
My diet is also very good, I have supports, pct, ancillaries(caber, aromasin, hcg, etc). Training was higher volume at first, but I just switched to DC. I've done one oral in the past and gained some from that, but the injectables don't seem to be doing it like the dbol did. Again, my injectables are 100% legit pure gear. Why do you think I'm not seeing much. Diet: 480 g pro, 300 g carb, 64 g fat daily. Stats: height-5'10", weight-209, bf- 15%. Bench- now 280x5, squat- 400x4
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Metaldisciple7700Post a pic bro that would help a lot
It's underdosed gear in my opinion. Not trying to discuss your source but you might wanna try another one and never look back lol also, are you literally pushing yourself to the limits to even put all that gear to use? U should be hitting personal records daily off the amount of shit ur taking or at least trying to hit PRs every time u go in there and stick to that mentality.
So now you're running a gram of gear per week. On your first cycle. Impressive! Congratulations! Tren not the miracle you had hoped for! There a variety of things that could be going on here. When you show me you are ready to listen, then I will type. You spit in everyone's face that tried to help you.
Any bloods ran for this? Also you cant go to the gym 1 day a week for 10 minutes and expect to blow up because that could be the only reason besides shit gear that you haven't even seen any gains at all. Or your lack of knowledge and experience got in the way of your thought process. Just because your friends brothers cousins sisters uncles father ran 6 compounds his 1st cycle does not make it true or working.
chiefsfanj9I just switched to dc training 1 week ago and I follow a very strict diet. All my sets I push myself as hard as I can. For example, on squats I always go until I can't get the bar back up and have to set it on the bars. I really haven't seen much more gains since stopping dbol.
According to your other post where you were advised not to run tren you "know what you're doing already". So now you want help as it's not working out as you predicted?
No idea how old you are, I'm guessing you're young. This cycle shows your complete lack of sensible research, especially for someone who claims to be off to med school.
Slow it down, you're going to end up in a mess.
chiefsfanj9No, I've done my research and knew it wasn't the best decision before I did it. I however, do have solid on cycle supports and a great pct set up. I've got bloodwork, my t levels are way up, and I'm still in fairily good health with lipids, liver, kidneys, heart looks great(bp, heart rate).
Hrdbdygrrrll got you on point. Your diet must be fucked up IMO, try upper your caloric intake bro. Even if your gear is bunk, eating a lot of food still gonna get you BIG even tho you are kinda big. If you ask me that is a but load of compounds, you yaking Test E & Dbol which work as a bulker and taking Tren A which is used for Cutting. I would stop going for what i see on the scale and go for what you see in the mirror. Remember Tren A is just the icing on top of the cake & not the base of a cycle, Test is the king of the AAS hommie & more than likely all you need. Good luck and hopefully you can do more benefical cycles in the future
there is just so much wrong here I don't know where to start..
chiefsfanj9I'm 24 years old. I follow DC training, changed to this one week ago from higher volume routine. My diet is a carb cycling type diet, while emphasizing high protein, and a 10 hr eating window, with 4 meals, plus protein shakes. All carbs are ate after my WO within a 4 hr period an I backload them. Training days: 480 g pro, 350 g carb, 68 g fat. Off days: 480 g pro, 50 g carb, 80 g fat. I eat chicken, lean beef, turkey, eggs, cheese, olive oil, sunflower oil, coconut oil, green veggies, potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice, overly ripe bananas, butter, avacadoes, oats, and maybe some dextrose post WO.
Anabolicsupreme...Hrdby always throws down the full spectrum and wisdom of the game.. Listen to whatever she tells you
MetalgearHow can u determine the Tren wasnt working if you ran it the same time as the other 2.
Dbol and Tren have a synergistic effect maybe those 18lbs tren helped.
Thats just my opinion
Anabolicsupreme...i must agree with Kaz on the fully homie, even i when i start my tren cycles i am running tren ace @ 400mg a week i see results within a week and running fo 7 weeks for get about it my body get's transformed..
dbol and tren = no results?
WHY THIS NO MAKE SENSE TO ME?!?!
Anabolicsupreme...To even get more into what Kaz is saying if you just ran dbol alone you should being blowing up just from the dbol bro.. Dont take me wrong i am not trying to put you down or anything ya know.. just from all the reading ive done and me and my friends running dbol we always would blow up fast from dbol but everyone is diff but tren you always blow up or ive not seen anyone not blow up tren yet. But that is just me
GearofWarI'm surprised that you're not seeing good gains out of the Tren especially at 75mg ED..AND being a first time user at that. The only thing that keeps coming back to the forefront of my mind is BUNK GEAR..Not that I advocate first time cycles include Tren, as it's overkill when your receptors are as clear as yours should be.
chiefsfanj9I've tried three different legitimate brands throughout the cycle though. All of them had great reviews, especially the one I'm taking now. I could pm you the brands if you'd like?
by the way..how old are you?
Tren first cycle?
I don't know what your asking really? All those drugs are being wasted!!! First time user doesn't need that much, your body does not know how to process them, you just pissing them out. That's why you start low and go higher. No addict goes from smoking cigarettes to shooting heroin, they progress.
You should have kept with a Test only cycle, and went from there.
I cant belive you use tren in your first cycle, pretty dumb if you ask me.