Not feeling any effects
Layout for me been working out without roids for over 2 years decent gains.Also been on cycle for 8 week now gear is from a top grade source so I dont see it being the gear. Pin spots are glutes with 23 G 1.5 inch/ leg 1 inch 23g. I mix oils when I pin also on sameday injection. I've mapped my leg out and glute you can miss on that one. Pinning tech is decent i'd say never much pain top is like a 5 one time i hit a vein ,but nothing since then. Just need some help please and thank you. Just wann know why I can't feel the kick or if i have im missing it some how lol.. To me I felt i had came to the end of the road for my body type and size. so I turned here and have been on a Test Cyp/Test P cycle. 500mg a week split monday/friday then 100mg monday,tuesday,thursday,friday total of (400mg). I have proper PCT-liquid dex,liquid clomi, liquid tamox aka nolva. I mean i've put on weight,but justd dosent seem it's much more.
Diet is chicken,pork,steak every some often boiled eggs fruit to snack on protein shakes,salads now and then. I work out twice a day not hard as shit,but a solid 60-90 mints each workout hitting all muscle group. Im one of the people that dont prefer to ISO a muscle. I feel that my diet is pretty tight my work out is hard enough for gains as i did that work out to get to where my default pic is and i've even added weight in my lifts ,but nothing that i haven't done off roids. Best wya to put it is i havent felt that kick I want to feel like i hear about.
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" I work out twice a day not hard as shit,but a solid 60-90 mints each workout hitting all muscle group. "
Anyone else see a problem here?!? Twice a day.....not hard...60-90 minutes.....all groups...... Every part of that statement is fucked up.
Try once a day, hard "as shit", for less than 60 minutes, working one large group once, maybe twice a week.
At fast and Viking I sent you both FR love to talk to you both in pm and get more info from both of you to.
Not being off here with you bro but my hours spent in PM these days are usually with advanced members or people doing show prep... everything you need to know and more is on these boards somewhere if you look hard enough ok.
AnonThe only reason could be your diet boss. My suggestion is go get a quality mass gainer to supplement to your diet to up your calories. My 2 favorites are Allmax's lean mass gainer and Myogenix critical mass. Both are in the 700-1000 calories range depending on how many scoops you use and both have a lot of fast acting and slow carbs and good fats. Try this twice a day and make the second one no later than 3 or 4pm and keep throwin down everything else clean you can get your hands on and there is no way you dont gain. I had your stats 3 months ago and now im 195...look at my pic at 185...eat boy
Anonyou tried running an AI along with this?
6-2 & 170?? Up the calories bro. Higher demand on cycle.
I dont understand your cycle. 500? & 400??
500mg a week of test cyp split and 400mg of testp 100 mg doses mon,tues,thurs,friday
You're clearly misusing the test prop which causes fluctuations and screws up growth and recovery. Eod means Every Other Day! Not when yoy feel like it. Also, yoyr caliries are too damn low. Yams....grains...tatoes. Carb up! As far as "feeling"....steroids isnt some feeling agent. If weight and strength goes up....that'd it. If you're "feeling" it its possible something is off. Using your ai?
Oh shit!... prop 4 days in a row then nothing for 3 days WTF i wonder also how long this cycle is planned for and how long the kicker is on.
It's a 12 week cycle and the days I use the test p were told to me by Zewi on here. Also I use my Ai EOD as I was told to by him also and the days for test cyp were planned by him also. Also the pro is used mon,tues,thurs,friday. Wed off and sat and sunday off.
Me n zewi killed the cycle ligs and forums all day evrry day for months. Theres no way possible he told you to prop like that. It's impossible. Given your stats alone i know he woulda been pushing better foods for ya as well. Prop is eod. Its flat dead in 48 hours. Dead...pissed out. Get that prop on line if you continue.
Secondly after wotking non stop with zewi....i know as well as you that prop is for first 4 Weeks and then week 13-14. Every cyycle log is very specific on that.
All I got to say is shit.. ID in't look at his cycle log for me and it dose stat week 1-4 for test P,but it stat 1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD or how i do it Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday(total 400mg) that what he said for me I copied and pasted it for you. so jthis is great i just fucked myself. The test cyp is fine that im taking ,but now I gotta figure out how to taper off test p without any effects. If you care to help with my mistake of misreading his outline for me i'd be greatful. Also sent you a Friend request m8
1-4 prop 100eod
1-12 test e 500 mon/thur......400 is fine for smaller gain of 8-10lbs
13-14 prop 100eod mon..wed...Fri...sun...tues..thurs...sat..mon...
Pct 2 days after last prop shot. Save your prop for Weeks 13/14. Click my name...cluck my forums....hardgainers forum.
Fr accepted
Once the Fr goes through m8 i'll send you the cycle Zewi gaave me for me next cycle also and tell me what you think m8
1-12 Test C @ 500mg a week split
1-4 Test P @ 100mg EOD or how i do it Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday(total 400mg)
4-12 .25mg of Arimidex E3D is nipples get sore go to .5mg EOD.. if still sore or sensitive go to .5mg ED
PCT start 18 days after last shot.
clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
Prop is eod. That above cycle is a cutter. Uou really need to be 210+ first. You're lean right now so EAT BIG. I also corrected your current cycle above. Your next cycle should be the cycle you're on now. Test 500 mon/thur with prop kick as i wrote. Eat bro
This is why you should never go by what someone tells you, do your own research never rely solely on what someone says.
X2 on that bro
He's on 8Weeks now. Big fluctuations with pins. Still wondering ai use. And he's very lean....which suggests he's not feeling much because probably still on super lean diet.
Ya my diet is super lean. Also I do use an AI Liquid Dex is my Ai. So if my whole problem my diet is still super lean as i've only added a few more cal's due to worrying about to much bulk
How many calories do you eat everyday? And I hate when people say " I take steroids but I dont wanna get too big " wtf is that? too much bulk? Srry man I dont mean to be a dick. But youve got the wrong impresion of what happens from your first test cycle. or any cycle. You told us the things you eat. But you didnt tell us how much, and at what times you eat. I can tell you I eat pasta and chicken, but thats not a very telling statement about my diet is it? and if youve only added a "few " more cals your not going to grow any faster than you normally do. You also say you ran into a plateua so you decided to juice. Yet your doing a type of full body workout 4 times a week. That only works in first year or so when you begin to lift. If you hit a plateua naturally after two years, theres a problem. Fix that without juice first, and than benifet from a cycle.
Bulk? Is there a reason to stay light bodyweight? Typically just good food can raise bodyweight. Steroids add muscle weight which is BULK. that'd what they do. So whats your goal?
I mean my goal is to get to around 190-200 tops. I don't want to be huge ,but big be able to see my like as now and if not more,but I want to keep my BF% in the 8-10% tops.
To be 190 & 8% bf.....means ypu gotta BULK. 500 test. Up those good carbs. Dont be fearful of fat. You need the pure muscle first bro. Really...i wont BS ya. Yams....oats...
Personally 6' 2" 190-200 seems kinda small To me. Not hatin or tryin to b a dick