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New to forum- question regarding Anadrol

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Created my profile, posted my stats... I also used the "magnifying glass" feature before I decided to make this post...

I am seeking solid and experienced information regarding anadrol... I managed to get thru about 4 pages using the search feature but most of what I found was comparisons between A50 and dbol and anavar...

My question is this- when should I add A50 in my next cycle? At the beginning or end? I have seen many conflicting suggestions including a 2 week on, 2 week off routine... i would like to get some reasonable feedback from the experienced members of this forum regarding the use of this compound...

My next cycle will be my 8th cycle and will also be the first time I have used orals... I am planning on using sust and eq for 16 weeks with test e on the tail end... I have my pct prepared as well- nolva, clomid and hcg...

Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide me...

Champion Of The Mind's picture

I would suggest tossing this idea into the trash my friend, IMO it's a mess... Why sust and Test-E? You already have 4 different esterified testosterone hormones, and the decanoate is the longest, it'll surpass the enanthate. I think you meant you wanna taper off with propionate....Adding in enanthate is only going to delay the pct process...

Pp2010's picture

Good points friend... I will take those into serious consideration...

aronl's picture

I agree with Dansta. If you want to add an oral Dbol is a better first choice for bulk, oxandrolone is optimal for sculpting. I have had good balanced quality results with Turinabol with essentially zero sides. Those all seem like better options than oxymeth just my .02

TheFlash85's picture

please elaborate ? test e tale end? cycle is bunk, test and proviron is what you want, test prop kicker! weeks 1-12 test e- @ 600, weeks 1-4 test prop- 100 eod, proviron throughout, pct week 14, clomid, nolva, boom, no toxic drol, cleaner, safer and better gains. ai as needed.

Dickkhead's picture

My question is this- when should I add A50 in my next cycle? (This) will also be the first time I have used orals.

Well, golly gee willikers bro! How about a renewing of your mind here. The first time using orals doesn't automatically mean u have to select one of the most poisonous of them. Does it? How about a different question - if u should use drol in your next cycle. I haven't seen the cycle but why not do a var finish and harden up a bit and work off some of that water - u can run the var right up to PCT.

That post from dansta on the bottom. All true. Keep reading it over and over till it sinks in.

Dickkhead's picture

True, unfortunately. Anadrol was introduced into the U.S. anyways in 1960 by Syntex pharmaceuticals. Every little nuance of drol is completely understood. Syntex also developed methasterone (sdrol) around the same time but never brought it to market - instead they introduced the non-17α-alkylated related compound drostanolone (Masteron). So the stuff popped back up as a "designer steroid" like about 10 years ago. To me, what makes superdrol a big bad nasty pill is not only the demonstrated liver and kidney damage we know it does but the simple fact there is so much we don't know about it.

TheFlash85's picture

x2 no telling how sd will affect ppl in future, its too young, i used it first time 7 yrs ago, i wake up hoping i havent grown an extra foot or ear etc it is a worry! sd actually worries me!

Pp2010's picture

Thanks man... I appreciate the info you provided and the manner in which you do so... This is the kind of communication I had hoped for when I joined the boards...

Pp2010's picture

Understood...

And again, thanks for your help my friend...

Pp2010's picture

Golly gee willikers? You know, I almost let this slide but nah... I had a "renewing" of my mind and realized that your sarcasm and self-rightousness have clouded your reading comphrehension... I asked for solid information yet I was provided some crap that you should save for a twenty something that approaches you for advice...

Keep the discussion on topic please...

Dickkhead's picture

sarcasm and self-righteousness?

Bro, I was just being nice and friendly. I don't think drol is the best choice u can make for a first run with an oral anabolic for reasons amply provided already in responses to your post. All the responses take it as a given that drol is to be run and I'm simply saying there are better alternatives. Something "sarcastic" is written word so cutting it "rips the flesh off bone" and "self-righteousness" is really about moral superiority and I don't think we are dealing with any moral issues at all . . . Anyways, sorry to offend . . .

Pp2010's picture

Apology accepted...

I appreciate your concern regarding anadrol and the potential hazards but I have already made up my mind and am simply looking for insight as to time and frequency of its' use in a cycle... I have considered alternatives and I took my time deciding on anadrol based on what I am trying to achieve...
I would really like to hear about any experiences you have had with the compound...

Dickkhead's picture

Since u r not gonna be running this for more than a few weeks at the beginning or end of a cycle, I'm really confused as to what difference u think it is gonna make in the outcome. I could be dead wrong here, and I hope I am - but when I here words like "my mind is made up" that gives me a picture of somebody who is looking to us for a strategy to keep running drol for the duaration of the cycle - I don't think anyone here is gonna cosign that. Like I said, I hope that is not what u r looking to do . . .

Pp2010's picture

No man... When I said my mind was made up I meant that my choice of anadrol has been made and i plan on seeing it through... All I want to do is have a better understanding of the reasons for the different times it is used in a cycle (beginning for bulking, end for cutting or competition) and some insight on the frequecy based on others experience (everyday-eod-2 weeks on/off etc)..
Let me put it this way... If I was to start tomorrow I would be starting with 25mg for seven days just to see how my body is going to respond... If all is good then I would go 4 weeks at 50mg a day and that would be it... I am intrigued by the relatively fast gains in size and strength associated with this compound but I am in no hurry to destroy what I have spent the last five years building...
I figured when I said that my mind was made up you might check my stats thinking I was a twenty something... But in reality, that was my way of saying I simply decided on that compound and I'm a stubborn old man...

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I'm a stubborn old man...

Hahahaha......... i thought i was stubborn at that age! dont blink brother it gets way worse lmfao!

Anyways back on topic.... start with 25mg ED to see how you tolerate it, if all is good after 1wk up that dosage to 50mg but do not increase any higher on this first use bro.... get used to the feeling Abombs bring and watch the sodium intake or you will blow up like a water bottle lol..... you will read some lunatics will be running 200mg ... little do they know they are gaining zero benefit from this particular compound by jacking doses up that far... 100mg is max dosage and yields the best gains/sides ratio..... high doses of Drol = high sides like crippling headaches, numbness in the limbs from the increased water retention forcing pressure onto nerves and the like..... learn Drol well and it will treat you right!... abuse it and believe me it will kick the shit out of your kidneys and liver!... keep checking the whites of your eyes whilst using! any signs of yellowing is signs of jaundice booting up............ Hefty liver support is the order of the day when running orals but especially with Drol or Sdrol because they have the potential to be really harsh depending on the persons organ strength/health.

Hope this helps some brother...... good luck and dont forget plenty of fluids, even the through the night is recommended :))

Pp2010's picture

Thanks for the heads up... I was told that my forties were going to be my prime years... After seeing your avatar I now have raised the bar on my expectations of myself for the next decade... But I digress...

You emphasize both hydration and liver support... Aside from milk thistle/silymarin, is there any other supplement I need to familiarize myself with? I might be stubborn but I am open to any and all suggestions so that I can maintain my health as well as my physique...

Dickkhead's picture

There are a number of good liver support supplements out there. One of the better ones is TUDCA (Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid). It is used to treat cholestasis (bile acid backup in the liver) that is a consequence of the use of oral anabolic steroids. Another product I had luck with is Essentiale Forte N. All the liver supplements are available through multiple on-line sources. If you live in the US, you can order your own blood tests without involving your doctor or insurance. There is nothing better than the habit of regular labs when you're on cycle if u live in a place where this can be accommodated. Better to catch it early on a blood panel before sides like jaundice manifest. At that point, damage is already being done. U can continue to use Milk Thistle with any of these products.

Pp2010's picture

Good looking out bro... I will look into those supplements immediately...

King_Geno's picture

Except for the aromatizing part Blum 3

Kind of a big one.

King_Geno's picture

Some corrections to the post below:

Anadrol does NOT aromatize- although some do report some interference with the progesterone receptor (similar to 19-nors). This can lead to prolactin sides, leaky nips, etc. Caber or Prami can fix this if it pops up. I would not advocate running either unless you experience these sides from the anadrol.

Also- water retention from drol varies greatly with how you are using it. I hardly "blow up 10+lbs" of water the way I use anadrol.

Anadrol is extremely versatile- it depends on the goals of your cycle.

From the looks of yours it appears to be a lean bulking cycle? If so, running drol in the beginning is a valid option. Especially since EQ takes a minute to kick in.

With that approach, you could do 4 weeks straight of it, 50-100mg a day, and then just stick to the rest of your cycle.

Some guys like the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off approach to bulking. I personally haven't done this, but It would probably allow you to go for awhile before your liver enzymes go out of whack. Bloodwork is really the only safe way to see if this is a viable route for you. I personally don't get crazy liver enzyme values from orals, but they ALWAYS put my lipids in the shitter- just like tren.

Some guys also "pulse" their orals, using them only 3-4 times a week (usually preworkout) to try and lengthen the overall time on. Again, this is something I would do only if I knew how my body (and liver) responded to oral usage.

Now, on a cutting cycle, anadrol can be used on the tail end quite effectively to "fill out" after body fat has been reduced to single digits. That is really the only time I would use it at the tail end of a cycle. And on that note- it is really only for cosmetic purposes at that point- you won't be making "gains" unless you stop cutting. It really helps fill out in a carb/calorie deficit. This is why so many bodybuilders incorporate anadrol in the last few weeks of contest prep before hitting the stage. Using it like this usually brings only minimal water retention. I feel it's the massive bulking diets that make people water logged when running drol.

Pp2010's picture

Good info on the versatility of the compound... I like the front end approach for a lean cycle because my experience so far has been that if I do relatively slow, lean cycles I am able to keep about 80% of my gains (size and weight)...
I have been encouraged to start using the drol now since I am on the tail end of my current cycle but I prefer to start fresh with it since I'm not doing a show or cutting...

Pp2010's picture

Thanks for the input... You are the first person to suggest 4 weeks as well as the EOD frequency... I will take this into consideration for sure since the cycle I am planning isn't going to begin until Sept. 1...

I do have my liver meds and I am constantly hydrated...

By the way, I tried the link you provided but got a file not found error...

j223's picture

Most BBers do not realise that even a high dose like 10ml of Test and Deca per week will have less sides than taking 1 0r 2 Oxy tabs a day.

idk about you but 600mg test a week gives me more sides than 150mg of anadrol a day

manbearpig's picture

Lol I'm in that same category... Freaking estro... Can't use dbol for sure

Pp2010's picture

Thanks for providing that info... I found some information that will be very helpful with my cycle...