posted Thu, 11/08/2012 - 18:09
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i am new here in the forum but i was wondering if someone out here has pinned 25 gauge needle for test prop or TNE or any steroids... i only pin 22 and 23 gauge but if smaller gauge like 25 can do then i would be happy to pin everyday... hey the smaller the needle the less pain right?
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Dude this is the completely wrong section for this. Ask a mod to move this to accesories.
i'm sorry bro... wont happen again... first time in the forum...
Don't apologize homeboy:-) Next time tell me to fuck off. Was having my period that day homie.
25g is what i use. Use a separate needle to draw the test out of the vial, because it dulls the needle. Pin with a fresh needle. Sharp needle ='s less pain.
Also, warm the oil like by rolling the glass vial in your hands for a few seconds. Just to clarify what biggerthanyou said. Don't "heat" the test just warm it up. Hot oil in muscle sounds crazy painful. Body temperature oil sounds much better.
nothing wrong with heating the oil bro, i put my vial(s) in a bowl with an inch of hot water for a few minutes, just make sure its not BOILING yknow
I have never ever heated my vials. Never had pain either.. I believe pip is a sterility issue to be honest
Or maybe your'e just one of those lucky bastards who don't get PIP, you fucker! lol
I think i'm very sanitary when it comes to pinning, i wipe down my vials before and after with an alcohol pad and i even wipe my hands too but sometimes PIP just hits, there's a lot of factors that can play in here
Too much BA, pinning to quick, shaky hands, not cleaning the vials and injection spot, and more...i have yet to try pharma gear but from what i hear that shit is PIP free for the most part
yes there are other factors that can come into play. but I mean EXTREMELY cautious when injecting.
Example: clean hands, alcohol wipes on the vial. open the syringe from the wrapper then draw your oil. With the alcohol wipe carefully remove needle and do not breathe on the exposed syringe (germs). now without touching the wrapper to the syringe carefully open the new needle and leave it in the wrapper and without touching the new needle twist it on with your left hand as you use your right holding the syringe.
DO NOT REMOVE THE WRAPPER until you have swabbed down your injection site with a clean swab. do not breathe at all near the site or this will contaminate your injection location. Now take your syringe and hold it in place as you prepare for injection. remove the wrapper from the new needle without touching it with your hands. (I usually hold the syringe with my right hand and an alcohol swab with my left hand to tighten the new needle on never touching the new needle with my bare hand.
remove the cap and puncture skin quickly then slowly inject after aspirating. Sometimes after the oil is halfway injected I will wait 5 seconds to let it settle then continue injecting and quickly remove syringe. place alcohol swab over site until bleeding stops (if any blood)
KEY things to remember:
- NEVER SET SYRINGE DOWN. once you take it out of the wrapper do not take it out of your hand, do not set it down or you will contaminate it.
- do not remove wrapper from new needle until you are ready to inject
- do not breathe on the syringe or you contaminate it
- do not rub or massage the injection location for more than 3 seconds or you will cause irritation and an inflammatory response
- if you have a high mg/ml oil or a generally painful oil (boldenone ace) you can place ice-pack on the injection site after you inject. do this for no more than 5-10 mins.
im sure theres stuff im missing but im tired and just wanted to give a rough idea of how to be completely sterile.
I should make a video of this lol
good info,but thought I read some where not to put ice on the pin site because your muscles get rid of the ester first .which leaves behind the compound in a crystalized form and by putting ice on it you inturn slow down the whole process. which keeps the irritant {being the compound} in the muscle that much longer. making inflammation last that much longer.
thanks bro!!! i feel better now..just pinned test prop w/25g.. no problem..
this is almost exactly my protocol, except for the ice part, +1 for knowing your shit bro
Thanks bro, yea I usually only use ice if I need to inject more than 2cc's at a time. Or when I do my right delt because its hard for me to reach all the way over with my left hand and be steady so i shake a little. (im right handed)
I'll have to try the water thing. And no pip happens with plenty of solutions for various reasons.. The amount of benzyl alcohol or the type of oil the steroids are dissolved in it could be anything. Sterility you WILL know because you will get a high fever and you will get very swollen where you injected.
I had to get some vaccinations when I left the country for a semester, and those are pharmaceutical FDA solution. The pip on those were insane, and those were absolutely sterile. Try a penicillin injection and get back to me. Holy shit those hurt.
also you do not ALWAYS know when your body is having an immune response to the oil. Sometimes your body will quickly sort it out, other times you are correct, you will know
but i will say I have never had a "fever" or test flu and I have shot 400mg/ml sustanon, regular sustanon, and tons of different types of oils all different brands, labs, and different carrier oil such as gso, cso etc
True, some things just cause pain. but regular EQ, Test, deca all should be relatively painless for most people if they perform a perfect injection technique.
nurses are not perfect you know.. I seen medical professionals place a loaded syringe on a desktop while they are putting their gloves on and getting ready to inject you. not all of them do it completely sterile
Agreed but damn penicillin thats a tough injection no matter the technique. It's damn painful. Definitely worse than any AAS. Stuck "my pin" in a fine ass girl. BAM! Needed the doctor to give me a shot ASAP.
i use 25g for everything delts quads ventroglutes & pecs
biggerthanyouIts usually not the needle causing the pain, its either the gear or shitty injection technique. That being said a 25 gauge pin works great for delts and quads...heating up your oils makes the gear pass through a 25gauge easier as well